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03/28/2006 11:15:39 AM · #76 |
Originally posted by eslaydog:
Originally posted by deapee:
Like I've said before...this example is exactly the same as running a stop sign and not telling on yourself to the cops. There is absolutely no difference.
And another similar situation:
You walk into a yard sale. You see a sweet little shiny 80-200 f/2.8 sitting there. Or a nice new canon 20d. The person running the garage sale says they are old, and the owner passed away, so they want $20 for the item....you just got a heck of a deal. You didn't steal anything. You payed what the person in charge was asking you for it.
I just wish everyone would stop trying to be so 'morally' correct. Every single person that has responded with how 'wrong' it is to keep the card for $2.00 -- when it's just a piece of cardboard anyway sins in so many ways every single day it's probably not even funny.
I'm sure Jesus, or your god, whoever that may be, cares more about other things than underpaying for a piece of cardboard. If you want to be more 'correct' in your ways, stop drinking, stop smoking, stop poisoning your body, stop swearing, don't lie, don't 'worship' or lust for the latest, greatest camera equipment, don't want what your neighbor has. But for goodness sake, if you get a good deal on a piece of cardboard, take the deal.
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Besides that, what a baseball card is worth is totally subjective. It's based on what people are willing to pay. That card is probably over-priced as it is at $200. |
Deepee,
You sure do a lot of rationalization. (It's ok to steal because it's over-priced, etc.) It's very telling. It's possible to rationalize anything - criminals do it all the time. Just because you can fool yourself into thinking that stealing (or whatever else) is ok, doesn't mean you can fool others.
I actually wish MORE people would try to be morally correct.
As for MY religion, which is called Christianity, a sin is a sin, regardless - and Jesus (whom you mentioned) cares about all of them equally. I know because I read it in a book called the Holy Bible. You can make assumptions about yourself, but you shouldn't try making assumptions about things you clearly don't know much about. |
Is that why mortal sins are different than normal sins?
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03/28/2006 11:18:01 AM · #77 |
Originally posted by Travis99:
if it was a little mom & pop store. I would take it back, if it were a big store I would keep it. |
Ditto
And I did it the other day. I got an HDD recorder and it had the wrong barcode, it scanned 50Euro cheaper. The store is all over europe and has terrible customer service, so I kept quiet.
Message edited by author 2006-03-28 11:21:01. |
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03/28/2006 11:28:40 AM · #78 |
Originally posted by Brent_Ward:
Originally posted by eslaydog:
Originally posted by deapee:
Like I've said before...this example is exactly the same as running a stop sign and not telling on yourself to the cops. There is absolutely no difference.
And another similar situation:
You walk into a yard sale. You see a sweet little shiny 80-200 f/2.8 sitting there. Or a nice new canon 20d. The person running the garage sale says they are old, and the owner passed away, so they want $20 for the item....you just got a heck of a deal. You didn't steal anything. You payed what the person in charge was asking you for it.
I just wish everyone would stop trying to be so 'morally' correct. Every single person that has responded with how 'wrong' it is to keep the card for $2.00 -- when it's just a piece of cardboard anyway sins in so many ways every single day it's probably not even funny.
I'm sure Jesus, or your god, whoever that may be, cares more about other things than underpaying for a piece of cardboard. If you want to be more 'correct' in your ways, stop drinking, stop smoking, stop poisoning your body, stop swearing, don't lie, don't 'worship' or lust for the latest, greatest camera equipment, don't want what your neighbor has. But for goodness sake, if you get a good deal on a piece of cardboard, take the deal.
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Besides that, what a baseball card is worth is totally subjective. It's based on what people are willing to pay. That card is probably over-priced as it is at $200. |
Deepee,
You sure do a lot of rationalization. (It's ok to steal because it's over-priced, etc.) It's very telling. It's possible to rationalize anything - criminals do it all the time. Just because you can fool yourself into thinking that stealing (or whatever else) is ok, doesn't mean you can fool others.
I actually wish MORE people would try to be morally correct.
As for MY religion, which is called Christianity, a sin is a sin, regardless - and Jesus (whom you mentioned) cares about all of them equally. I know because I read it in a book called the Holy Bible. You can make assumptions about yourself, but you shouldn't try making assumptions about things you clearly don't know much about. |
Is that why mortal sins are different than normal sins? |
I am not debating religion here. That should be pretty obvious. FYI, a mortal sin applies to the Catholic religion.
Please don't use this as a red-herring to skirt the real issue of ethics and morals. |
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03/28/2006 11:34:09 AM · #79 |
How about rationalizing the situation like this:
If you wouldn't want it done to you, don't do it to someone else.
Pretty simple way to live a decent life. |
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03/28/2006 11:38:55 AM · #80 |
Originally posted by BradP:
How about rationalizing the situation like this:
If you wouldn't want it done to you, don't do it to someone else.
Pretty simple way to live a decent life. |
Yes! Boy that sounds familiar... ;) |
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03/28/2006 06:21:17 PM · #81 |
Originally posted by BradP:
How about rationalizing the situation like this:
If you wouldn't want it done to you, don't do it to someone else.
Pretty simple way to live a decent life. |
I agree 100%. If I'm stupid enough to sell something that is supposed to be $200 for $2.00, then so be it.
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And just for the record, speaking religion to me isn't worth a thing. I don't care what anyone's definition of anything in, on, or otherwise around the Bible means to anyone but myself. The only reason I brought up religion was because so many people think that if he doesn't bring the card back that he's a 'bad person' -- well I think that's stupid. I think he's a fine person...and just so every single one of you knows right now, if you're ever selling me something, check the prices twice, because I won't come back if I'm undercharged.
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04/02/2006 12:00:34 AM · #82 |
| How come we never get to hear what happens in these little dilemmas? |
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