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03/25/2006 09:42:47 AM · #826
Concerning the discussion of dividing by 7 or by 4 dropping low scores. I need everyone input. Here are the options for the rule change.

1. Keep as is.
2. Dropping the lowest three scores and dividing by 4.
3. Dropping the lowest two scores and dividing by 5.
4 Dropping the lowest and Highest score and dividing by 5.
03/25/2006 09:48:37 AM · #827
Originally posted by southern_exposure:


1. Keep as is.
03/25/2006 09:50:34 AM · #828
I like taking the four highest scores. It encourages everyone to enter. Averaging all scores might encourage weaker photographers not to enter any challenges that week for fear of hurting the team. If the object of this contest is to encourage participation rather than discourage it, this seems the only way to go.

~Terry
03/25/2006 09:53:47 AM · #829
I reckon take the top four, or keep it as it is. I don't really like the idea of dropping the highest.
03/25/2006 10:00:03 AM · #830
I like the idea of taking the highest 4 and making the average from it. I also like the idea of using a handicap system since there are obvious disparities in the teams. However it is all for fun and bragging rights so............

MattO
03/25/2006 10:00:19 AM · #831
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:

I like taking the four highest scores. It encourages everyone to enter. Averaging all scores might encourage weaker photographers not to enter any challenges that week for fear of hurting the team. If the object of this contest is to encourage participation rather than discourage it, this seems the only way to go.

~Terry


I agree with Terry.
03/25/2006 10:02:13 AM · #832
Originally posted by kiwiness:


I agree with Terry.


I agree with people that agree with Terry.
03/25/2006 10:06:36 AM · #833
Originally posted by idnic:

Originally posted by kiwiness:


I agree with Terry.


I agree with people that agree with Terry.


I agree with idnic.
03/25/2006 10:16:54 AM · #834
Originally posted by puzzled:

Originally posted by idnic:

Originally posted by kiwiness:


I agree with Terry.


I agree with people that agree with Terry.


I agree with idnic.


I also agree with the agreement of all who agree with terry and Kiwi .. so yeh Top 4 thing

Message edited by author 2006-03-25 13:18:26.
03/25/2006 10:24:53 AM · #835
I agree with me, and me likes the top 4 thing... maybe even top 5.
03/25/2006 10:46:17 AM · #836
Sig test
03/25/2006 10:56:26 AM · #837
Originally posted by puzzled:

Originally posted by idnic:

Originally posted by kiwiness:


I agree with Terry.


I agree with people that agree with Terry.


I agree with idnic.

I agree with my teammate, puzzled, who agrees with Terry. Top four (or five, unless there's a bigger difference that I don't see right now).

Message edited by author 2006-03-25 10:56:55.
03/25/2006 10:56:57 AM · #838
What exactly is the purpose of a DQ being counted into the average? Is there anyone on these teams with a DQ for anything other than an accident?

If there are more than 5 entries and one gets DQ'd, then only the top 4 scores would count anyway (presumably). If there are only 4 entries and one gets DQ'd then that team forfeits the round with less than 4 entries, so what's the point?
03/25/2006 10:57:25 AM · #839
I like option 4:
"Dropping the lowest and Highest score and dividing by 5."

I have a question; what happens if a team only has 5 of the 7 with an entry that week for some reason? How will that factor in?

edit to add (after seeing Scalvert's post); the minimum entries per week is 4 - if a team only has 4 entries that week, how is that factored into any scoring scenario that uses an avg of 5 scores?

Thanks.
Barry

GO Team KM! ;^)

Message edited by author 2006-03-25 11:00:29.
03/25/2006 11:14:16 AM · #840
Originally posted by puzzled:

Hey, LucidLotus and holdingtime, I don't think it has anything to do with our averages. Most of the teams have some pretty low average team members, and a couple (like us) have team averages of only around 5.1! It's just that this all happened so fast. My team (PixelStorm) is really diverse and nice. I'm sure that one of you can replace me if I end up having to bow out.

For the rules, is it okay to have a stand-in or bench-warmer? I'd love to be allowed to let either LucidLotus or holding time carry the PixelStorm flag for me if it turns out I can't continue. What do you all think?


I actually think the fact that things filled up faster than expected is for the best (for me at least), the trial run is usually the hardest and points out things that may need to be changed in the future so sitting this round out may mean the next time will be even better/smoother!

I'm content to watch from the bench this go (it'll give me more time to get acquainted with my new camera) but if you end up needing a stand-in, and its acceptable to do so, I'm of course ready to jump in the game. :D
03/25/2006 11:19:31 AM · #841
everybody enters and all entries count......what you do is play off the averages.. each player is playing against himself to beet his or her oew average if you beet your average score that is worth point if you dont you loose points....that way everyone is eaven OK

THAT WAY A TEAM WITH A HIGH AVERAGE IS THE SAME AS A TEAM WITH A LOW AVERAGE

Message edited by author 2006-03-25 11:22:23.
03/25/2006 11:23:05 AM · #842
So Kiwinesss would have to beat a 6.73 and I'd have to top 6.26 for our entries to count at all? I'm not loving that idea (except for Kiwi of course).
03/25/2006 11:36:26 AM · #843
it is a way of showing improvment if your that good it should not be a ploblem ........
03/25/2006 12:00:54 PM · #844
Don't most competions drop the highest and the lowest then average scores. I'm for that one. #4 I think.
03/25/2006 12:02:58 PM · #845
Agree, this is my choice......

Originally posted by dsmeth:

Don't most competions drop the highest and the lowest then average scores. I'm for that one. #4 I think.
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03/25/2006 12:32:22 PM · #846
You can only do this if all teammembers participate in the challenge. If 5 of them participate, what then?
Anyway, I can't say that I have a strong opinion on the matter other than it is important, if we change the rules, to find a way that does not create problems later on.
I would like the rules to state whether the teammembers are or are not allowed to discuss their submission before they submit and during voting. Is it allowed to discuss submission without actually showing it to one or more of the other teammembers?
And speaking about rules, the first rule needs to be changed now that we have 6 teams in each division, not 5.
03/25/2006 12:53:57 PM · #847
Originally posted by southern_exposure:

Concerning the discussion of dividing by 7 or by 4 dropping low scores. I need everyone input. Here are the options for the rule change.

1. Keep as is.
2. Dropping the lowest three scores and dividing by 4.
3. Dropping the lowest two scores and dividing by 5.
4 Dropping the lowest and Highest score and dividing by 5.


I like #3 best, but since most people seem to like #2 I'm ok with that one too.

This way everyone can enter with the fear of really hurting their team. And if someone absolutely can't enter in a week, it makes it harder on their team but at least the can still make up for it.

Message edited by author 2006-03-25 12:56:39.
03/25/2006 01:10:52 PM · #848
I'm a fan of taking the 4 highest scores as well.
03/25/2006 01:43:42 PM · #849
I liked it the way it was. So I guess Number 1. I just suppose its a team effort and not 2-7=5 ect ect.
03/25/2006 01:54:50 PM · #850
I just went and looked at the team averages so far and honestly, with the exception of Team Iceland, er excuse me the MAGNIFICENT SEVEN, who's last member's average hasn't been averaged in yet, we really aren't all that far apart! I'm really excited about this!

My team has not one ribbon winner on it, lot of top tens though so watch out all, you are in for a storm of unprecendented force!

Deannda
Oh and I like the top 4 idea, encourages everyone to try without fear of dragging down the average
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