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Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

03/19/2006 01:56:41 PM · #1

Ok, I was asked to provide my original image for the Take Two challenge. I went to my camera and saved it as a jpg, and I used Photoshop, cause you have to use some sort of program in order to send it right? Now they are saying it is a photoshop image and not the original. How can I take something off of the memory card and not save it in some sort of program so I can attach it? I don't get it.

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HELP ME!!!!!!

Ecce_Signum

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

03/19/2006 01:59:23 PM · #2

Sounds to me like you saved your edited image over the original on the card?

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

03/19/2006 02:00:02 PM · #3

No I didn't
I saved it in the file where the edited one was and I am looking at the card and it's still just as it was. I am so confused.

peecee

Canon EOS-5D

03/19/2006 02:06:21 PM · #4

If the file in camera is untouched connect as usual and drag it, or the whole lot into a folder using windows explorer.Nothing should have been altered.Then just upload as normal.

kiwiness

Canon Canon 1d x Mark II

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

03/19/2006 02:06:35 PM · #5

Originally posted by Jutilda:

No I didn't
I saved it in the file where the edited one was and I am looking at the card and it's still just as it was. I am so confused.

Hi Judy,

If you saved the camera image in the same file as the edited one maybe you just sent the edited on by mistake? All you need to do is send the image which was direct from the card which hasn't been saved over.

Gary

cpanaioti

Canon EOS-40D

Canon EF 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 DO IS USM

03/19/2006 02:06:49 PM · #6

No you don't have to save it as something in order to attach it. In the window that asks for the attachment just browse to the location on the card.

Or, use windows explorer to copy the image from the card to the computer. Don't open it in any software at all.

smilebig4me1x

Canon EOS-400D Rebel XTi

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6

03/19/2006 02:07:07 PM · #7

save your file to my documents straight off the card. then send that file. you dont have to use photoshop at all to save it. you should be able to drag and drop the photo from your camera right to my documents. thats how i do it.

Dirtypainter

Canon EOS-40D

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

03/19/2006 02:08:34 PM · #8

did you shoot it in raw?? if so send the raw file.

Also it sounds like you still have the orginal on the card. if so use windows explorer to copy it to your hard drive. don't use the import function of your imaging program as that writes over the exif to include the program that saved it to your hard drive, even though there was no editing done to the image.

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

03/19/2006 02:28:27 PM · #9

Ok, I figured it out. Nobody said you couldn't call your image "blah blah ORIGINAL" That's how I save stuff so I know which one it is. UGH Ok, I sent it with the original file name off of the card. I had no idea naming it "original "changed any data. WOW

So that means two of my entries (should they need the originals) will have to be pulled, cause I saved them the same way as "____Original" instead of just as the number off the card. Am I an idiot or do other people do the same thing?

AUGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Your Friendly Dunce Photog

Rikki

Canon EOS-20D

03/19/2006 02:37:21 PM · #10

i kinda did the same thing 'Tilda ;(

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

03/19/2006 02:42:28 PM · #11

Thanks, Rikki. I mean, changing data and changing names doesn't seem the same to me. Oh well, live and learn. Man, what a hassle over an image with a 4.01 score. HA!!!

Canon EOS-20D

03/19/2006 02:48:59 PM · #12

Originally posted by Jutilda:

Am I an idiot or do other people do the same thing?

Definitely not an idiot. Lots of people do the exact same thing. You are certainly not the first. :)

Message edited by author 2006-03-19 14:49:14.

gloda

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

03/19/2006 03:04:20 PM · #13

Renaming a file with windows actually makes it unvalid for proof? Jeez, I've been lucky I never changed them.

BeeCee

Nikon D40

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 ED

03/19/2006 03:13:28 PM · #14

Okay, I need to clarify something here.
Gloda, did you open the file, then "save as" to give it a new name or did you rename it by rightclicking the file and choosing "rename"?

A recent thread warned us that using any softwear to open a pic would change it without our actually DOING anything, but I'm trying to make sure that just renaming without opening is okay.

Canon RF 24-70mm f/2.8 L IS

03/19/2006 03:25:27 PM · #15

According to what I understand, NO it cannot have a name. It has to be like 4409_DC - straight out of the camera. What I did was name it for example "Girl in the WindowORIGINAL"

THAT makes it invalid, although it does NOT change the image itself. Kind of weird, but that's the rules.

kirbic

Canon EOS R5

03/19/2006 03:51:46 PM · #16

Originally posted by Jutilda:

Let me clarify this, since it does seem to occasionally cause confusion... renaming a file does not invalidate it. Opening it with some prorgam a nd saving it as a different file name (even without doing any editing) does invalidate it.
In order to rename a file without having it "tagged" by editing software, just renaming it just remane it using the operating system. In Windows, do the following:
- Open the folder where the file is located
- Rightp-click on the file, and choose "Rename" from the menu that comes up
- Edit the file name as desired and hit "Enter."

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

03/19/2006 03:53:59 PM · #17

MAN!!! I never use windows explorer. I guess I'm slow in the computer department. I never put anything on my desktop either. I'm going to have to figure out a whole new way to do it I guess. THANKS for the tips.

gloda

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

03/19/2006 03:59:45 PM · #18

Good, my beloved F2 key won't become redundant :)

Bear_Music

Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra

Sony 24-70mm F4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

03/19/2006 04:05:49 PM · #19

Jutilda:

Presumably your reason for renaming the file is so you know which one is which. I do it a little differently; when I make my working files (I open the original and immediately save-as a psd file) I leave the original file number as part of the new filename. So all my working files have names like "tight_sunset_2_IMG_0321" where the original file is named "IMG_0321".

This way I can always find the original by copying the number to clipboard and pasting it into search, if I lose track (which I often do).

My file workflow:

1. I have a folder called "Originals_2006"
2. Each time I download new images, I make a new subfolder in above called (for example) "sunsets_03_19_06" and in THAT I make another subfolder called "edited_sunsets_03_19_06".
3. When I have created the folders I open the "sunsets_03_19_06" folder with windows explorer, and I open the CF card with windows explorer.
4. I hit cntrl-A to select all on the CF card and drag them with the mouse to the waiting "sunsets_03_19_06" folder, where they copy themselves intact.
5. When I've verified that they are all where they belong, I reformat the CF card in the camera.
6. When I open my RAW editor (or Photoshop when I'm working from jpg, which is rarely) I adjust the images and then save the TIFF version in the "edited" subfolder (or in PS from jpg, I open then save-as in the 'edited" subfolder).

End result: a nesting set of folders where, as long as you do all your editing on an image that's already saved to the 'edited" folder, the original is entirely intact and in close proximity to the edited version.

Robt.