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 03/11/2006 11:42:23 AM · #1
the master of disguise challenge is such a great idea and it's too bad that at least half the people out there that vote on these photos don't stop for more than a second to actually see the idea the photographer was trying to convey before they vote. they just click.click.click whatever, pretty soon they forget what the challenge even was and start voting on stuff they just like. they don't even take the time to go back and re-evaluate anything they see or maybe didn't see. of course this isn't just happening for this challenge, it happens all the time. i know. it sucks. but especially for this challenge, a little patience when voting would be nice. i bet there are a lot of comments 'i don't get it.' i know i wrote a few. but i didn't see it. and i looked a long time. sorry if this is yours. but, some photos i didn't get until i looked at them at least five times or more. did that make for a better photo in the end. maybe. but at least i had a moment with the photographer and his/her idea.
thank you.
click.
 03/11/2006 11:44:49 AM · #2
*cough*

I did this last week in my Odd Couple entry ;) Realized what the voting pattern is so now I try to avoid such a thing ;)
 03/11/2006 11:47:02 AM · #3
hmmm - does this mean that the viewer has to instantly "get" or "bond" with the picture??????

I really hope not as that is not my style at all.

This assumes that I have a style of course!

Carl
 03/11/2006 11:47:14 AM · #4
then lose your imagination and appease the masses!!
the voting pattern rules all!! ha. ha. ha.
 03/11/2006 11:50:58 AM · #5
and i said a 'moment' not to 'get or bond' with the artist.
if it's a good or bad moment i don't care.
 03/11/2006 11:53:57 AM · #6
Hey guys, what's important here is an appeal of the image. If an image has "mass appeal" people will stick around and look. Come back. Look again.

Now, do you think this compromises your integrity as a photographer to shoot just for DPC? Heck no! DPC is a client. Shoot what your client wants ;) Just a s long as you're happy with the image too ;)

Rikki

Message edited by author 2006-03-11 11:54:29.
 03/11/2006 11:55:01 AM · #7
I appreciate the time you take on voting, but it really is true that images have to get their point across immediately, without patience or explanation, in order to do well. That doesn't just apply to this site, it also applies to pretty much every magazine and art gallery in the world. Of course, there are exceptions, but that does seem to be the general rule.

I agree that it would be nice if people spent more time voting, but since they don't, it up to us to take this into account when setting up our pictures.
 03/11/2006 11:56:23 AM · #8
that's a very good point rikki. i never thought of DPC as a client.
 03/11/2006 12:03:26 PM · #9
Hey deepfrog ;)

There are three things to think about IMHO for your image to receive great interest and people will remember it and come back and therefore you'll receive bumps for better votes:

1. Great technicals (flawless, near perfect execution)
2. Mass appeal
3. Meeting the challenge (this is where you need to make your point across. Hit 'em hard and at times, forget the subtleties)

Just my opinion ;)
 03/11/2006 12:04:09 PM · #10
Philip - I'm with you.

I got most of them. I had originally posted, thinking of the "Afterlife" so I had to edit this post quickly.

Message edited by author 2006-03-11 12:05:12.
 03/11/2006 01:48:51 PM · #11
I'll be honest. I voted on just over 20% last night. I'm on dial up, so it sometimes takes two or three mintues for the picture to load. So I'm looking, looking. looking, looking. Teh whole picture finally gets on the screen, and I'm still studying and for almost half of the pictures last night, I could not, in my wildest imagination figure out what in the heck it had to do with "Master of Disguise."

Of course, maybe there are just a handful of pictures that *dnmc* and I got them all last night.

03/11/2006 02:01:59 PM · #12
To me it seemed like disguise, camouflage and illusion were all used interchangeably.

adding: I didn't vote anybody down, figured I could stretch my imagaination to fit their interpretation. :)

Message edited by author 2006-03-11 14:03:51.
 03/11/2006 02:16:36 PM · #13
Originally posted by Rikki:
Hey deepfrog ;)

There are three things to think about IMHO for your image to receive great interest and people will remember it and come back and therefore you'll receive bumps for better votes:

1. Great technicals (flawless, near perfect execution)
2. Mass appeal
3. Meeting the challenge (this is where you need to make your point across. Hit 'em hard and at times, forget the subtleties)

Just my opinion ;)


I would add one to this Rikki and that is:

The picture needs to convey easily what you want to the viewer. In some ways (and I know this sounds strange) if your picture doesn't convey the message itself you get voted down. I like karmat have recently done voting and put in comments, not only on this one but others, and I am still surprised when I look at a pic and say to myself ... and "how does this meet the challenge?".

Mind you, I also don't like coming on in the morning to find myself and other voters being bagged yet again photog.s who think that we don't have imaginations as they aren't getting the votes they want ... I don't always enter challenges, but each week I try to vote on at least two, and to find that voters are being bagged for not having imaginations suxed. Mind you for square crop is easy, but the picture still needs to be technically good and convey a message.

Kari
 03/12/2006 05:36:10 AM · #14
Good points made by all on here. DPC as a client? Wow - didn't even think of that.

Currently, as a I am learning, I use the challenges to kick-start my imagination and then help develop my artistic and technical skills, all in the context of the challenge topic. Now I need to add to that the old Simon and Garfunkel adage: Keep the customer satisfied!

Chuckle - man, what a ride!

Carl
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