Monthly-Master Ribbons - DPChallenge Forums

Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR II

03/10/2006 05:01:57 AM · #1

As a spin-off from the Knock-Out Challenge thread, I had this idea:

What about having a regular, monthly ribbon for those who entered all of the regular, member's challenges that month (excluding speed challenges and other special challenges), awarding "Monthly Master" ribbons to the top 3 average scores across these 4 or 5 challenges that began in the given month?

Example: You receive, in challenge "A", 6.5: "B", 5.9: "C", 6.1: "D", 6.7. You did well, but got no ribbons, just some top-10's and top-20's. Your monthly average is 6.3, and it's the second-best average of those who entered all 4 challenges. You get a red ribbon...

Robt.

Refwhett

Nikon D300

03/10/2006 05:07:31 AM · #2

I like this. It can give very good motivation and recognition to alot of non-ribbon but excellent photographers. As well as acknowledgin peoples active participation in the site.

03/10/2006 05:10:34 AM · #3

Originally posted by Refwhett:

I like this. It can give very good motivation and recognition to alot of non-ribbon but excellent photographers. As well as acknowledgin peoples active participation in the site.

That's what I'm thinking; as the challenges get larger and larger, the ribbon-winning chances get correspondingly lower. This is a chance to reward active participation and all-around excellence without adding more challenges to the mix and increasing the workload on shooters and voters.

R.

Art Roflmao

Canon EOS-6D Mark II

Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR II

03/10/2006 05:12:45 AM · #4

I find it discouraging. *runs away crying* ;-)

Refwhett

Nikon D300

03/10/2006 05:25:49 AM · #5

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

I find it discouraging. *runs away crying* ;-)

LOL, what are you worried about, I am strugling to get top 100 spot.....

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D

03/10/2006 05:34:19 AM · #6

Originally posted by Refwhett:

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
I find it discouraging. *runs away crying* ;-)

LOL, what are you worried about, I am strugling to get top 100 spot.....

He gets upset because his Woodies are his passion, and woody-bigotry is rampant in DPC, so he can only dream, you know...

Maybe if we add an additional, monthly award for "highest rated Woody of the month" he will stop crying? No, that won't work, I beat him last month... And with a Woody he GAVE me, no less. But I cheated and added a Duckie to the mix, so...

jejejeâ�¢

R.

David.C

03/10/2006 05:38:36 AM · #7

First let me say I have no problem what-so-ever with recognizing the photographers of merit on this site. However, I would hope that recognition is not in the form of a ribbon unless it is for the winning of a specific challenge -- it seems to dilute the ribbon pool if they are given out for other things.

David

goc

Apple iPhone 4

03/10/2006 05:39:20 AM · #8

this is better idea than knock/out challenge in my humble opinion,
to make another point of view from existing chalenges and not to bloat number of challenges whatsoever ...

i like it and it's not so hard doable :>

peace,
goran

Sigma 28-80mm f/3.5-5.6 Aspherical HF for Pentax

03/10/2006 05:41:25 AM · #9

Originally posted by David.C:

That's cool; let's start a new category of award, "Monthly Medals", then.

R.

Pug-H

Pentax K10D

03/10/2006 05:51:04 AM · #10

Or maybe the winners' icon colours could be made different for the following month (with a suitable permanent notice on their profile pages).

Refwhett

Nikon D300

Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR II

03/10/2006 05:57:47 AM · #11

Sure, it doesn't ahve to be a ribbon, anything recognizable will do really. The point is just to bring some more talented photog. the recognition they deserve. I feel that eventhough it is not very difficult to find the talents on this site alot still get lost between the ribbons, so to speak. This will shed some light on those. e.g CalliopeKel.

Art Roflmao

Canon EOS-6D Mark II

03/10/2006 06:03:55 AM · #12

How about one of these:

03/10/2006 06:11:10 AM · #13

Oh, please, NO, noooooooooooo. Maybe stars?

An interesting sidelight to this; a pretty fair number of ribbons are won by people who cherry-pick their challenges, whether for lack of time, lack of motivation, or just sticking to what they do best. And a pretty fair number of these people aren't all that active as participants in DPC.

But those who enter every challenge, or nearly all of them, also tend to be the more active participants in the community. So it's nice to reward them, I think. And who knows, this might even bring some of the cherry-pickers out of their comfort zones as they seek medals (or stars) to go with their ribbons, and we'd see more of their work :-)

Robt.

Art Roflmao

Canon EOS-6D Mark II

03/10/2006 06:17:36 AM · #14

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Oh, please, NO, noooooooooooo.

How about a "Golden Bear"?

Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8 EX Aspherical DF for Canon

03/10/2006 06:36:29 AM · #15

jejejeâ�¢

Check the photo bump game for a real bear...

R.

hankk

Canon EOS-5D

03/10/2006 07:51:43 AM · #16

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by David.C:
However, I would hope that recognition is not in the form of a ribbon unless it is for the winning of a specific challenge -- it seems to dilute the ribbon pool if they are given out for other things.

David

That's cool; let's start a new category of award, "Monthly Medals", then.

R.

Or a trophy.

Is a simple sum (or average) of all the contests entered the right way to go about this, or should the numbers be scaled based on the rating of the blue ribon photo or the average score? (some contests seem to have higher scores than others) Or should it just use the participants rank, averaged accross competions (lowest number wins)?

03/10/2006 08:00:05 AM · #17

Originally posted by hankk:

Is a simple sum (or average) of all the contests entered the right way to go about this, or should the numbers be scaled based on the rating of the blue ribon photo or the average score? (some contests seem to have higher scores than others) Or should it just use the participants rank, averaged accross competions (lowest number wins)?

The "scaling" doesn't seem to make any sense, because all contestants will have been in the same challenges. So whatever difference-of-scale applies, applies equally, as far as raw scores. I guess you could make a case for computing based on average percentile finish. Let the math whizzes (and the programming geeks) figure out the best way I guess. I'm partial to averaging the actual scores, because this gives a number that can be related to the challenges themselves. Over any given month of challenges I think we can expect some pretty even ranges of scores, month in and month out...

I wouldn't be in favor of adding the actual finishing positions and dividing them simply because that number changes if DQs happen post-challenge, but the scores don't. In fact, that's a problem with percentiles also, come to think of it.

Robt.

Melethia

Canon EOS-80D

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

03/10/2006 08:37:33 AM · #18

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

The "scaling" doesn't seem to make any sense, because all contestants will have been in the same challenges.

Not necessarily, given that there are two exclusive open challenges every week - contestants might be in the opposite challenges. Percentile might be OK even if there are DQs, since DQs usually happen fairly soon after a challenge.

I like the idea of medals. Good suggestion!

glad2badad

Apple iPhone 16 Pro

Lensbaby Sweet 35 Optic

03/10/2006 09:10:53 AM · #19

This is a fun suggestion Robert.

I'm in favor of a "Monthly Medal" and no scaling. Straight avg score is good.

There could be a section added in the user profile page underneath the ribbon and hm area for displaying this award.

posthumous

Canon EOS-40D

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

03/10/2006 09:21:07 AM · #20

Originally posted by David.C:

it seems to dilute the ribbon pool if they are given out for other things.

David

uh-oh, that sounds like ribbon eugenics!

I think you should use the average score, not percentile. Since the whole point is to compensate for the quirks of individual challenges, why not reward people who get high scores in high-scoring challenges? It's not really that some challenges lead to higher scores, just that some challenges attract better photographs. I think...

Little King

Canon EOS-30D

03/10/2006 12:08:43 PM · #21

Originally posted by gooc:

this is better idea than knock/out challenge in my humble opinion,
to make another point of view from existing chalenges and not to bloat number of challenges whatsoever ...

This is a great idea, but what does it have to do with axing the knockout challenge? Both would add some fire to the site.

ursula

Fujifilm X-T2

Fujifilm XF 55-200mm f/3.5-4.8 R LM OIS

03/10/2006 12:21:34 PM · #22

Sounds nice.

The only "negative" thing that comes to mind is that it would discourage people from entering challenges for reasons other than getting a high score, and it would only increase the tendency of submitting photos that are just "good scorers". Not that there's anything wrong with that, but, at least for me, sometimes I like to enter an image just because I really like it and I'm proud of it. And, since we're all so number driven, I'd be less inclined to do so when I know my score isn't going to be all that good on an image.

Does that make sense?

Falc

Canon EOS-1D Mark III

Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8L USM

03/10/2006 12:30:32 PM · #23

Is it suggested that this could be for non-members and members alike?
I think it would be nice to see it as another reward for those who pay up and join the DPC community.

Like the idea though.

Melethia

Canon EOS-80D