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03/02/2006 10:44:07 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
I go back to Aunt Gladys and the vinyl guy. You happy to let him get whatever he can out of auntie? |
That's freaking ridiculous; the vinyl-siding guy is a salesamn trying to inflate his bottom line. The photographers are committed professionals with a concept of their own worth. Pay it or don't pay it. But don't dump all over them.
R. |
Listen, I'm not denigrating the whole profession. We all have to earn our keep. But I do believe the term "high-pressure sale" was used and if it stands, I don't put him in any different category than the vinyl guy. I did allow that others would differ with my opinion, but I stand by this one. I don't believe we should all be the "walmart" of our professions and skill should be rewarded, but offering a tidbit to get someone in the door then hitting them with high pressure and grossly inflated prices is not a tactic I would ever feel comfortable with be it photography, medicine, men's slacks, or artichokes. |
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03/02/2006 11:11:20 PM · #27 |
Considering that no one has actually seen the photos yet, it's not fair to argue about price to much in my opinion. Some photographers are worth that much, and will charge what they are worth. If you were an accomplished portrait photographer who had a great reputation with wealthy clients and truly believed your work was more unique and emotive than many other studios, and people were willing to pay you accordingly (such as the prices mentioned) would you not charge that amount?
If I felt my shots were worth that much and the market reinforced that, that's what I would charge.
Don't drive down the market of professional photographers. I see this here a lot and it really frustrates me. I know most people here are hobbyists (like myself at this point) and get excited by getting occasional published photos and stock photos because of that, but you are all mostly in a different world than the people that make this their entire life and living. There is a huge difference (not necessarily in the quality of portfolio, but the whole lifestyle and thoughts about the industry)
so yeah, garhh. maybe this guy IS worth that much? could be. |
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03/02/2006 11:20:26 PM · #28 |
| Probably good advice. Let's wait and see (or hear about) the photos... |
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03/03/2006 12:39:33 AM · #29 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
I go back to Aunt Gladys and the vinyl guy. You happy to let him get whatever he can out of auntie? |
If Auntie is stupid enough not to get more than one estimate and find out what a reasonable price is, then yeah, she gets what she deserves. I would not be happy about it, but, if he was clear up front about how much he was charging her to do the job (not how much he was marking the siding up) and she agreed to the price, then I can't be any less angry with her.
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03/03/2006 01:36:40 AM · #30 |
| Why does anybody have an issue about what this guy charges? Why is there a need to "protect" people we feel are naive? The only time I feel we should ever be concern about what people charge is when the need for those services are so great and there is a lack of competition in the industry. Photography hardly qualifies. |
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03/03/2006 01:45:26 AM · #31 |
| Well every one has to live, some live better than others !!! |
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03/03/2006 06:21:45 AM · #32 |
If I could add a little more clarification, as far as I can tell the photographer is not the owner (he can't be more than 22), and its a UK wide operation so is clearly succesful.
Whether it is a marketing and sales success story rather than being about quality photographs will remain to be see.
Capitalism is exactly the right way for this, but I personally shall be exercising my right to spend the money on camera equipment for myself rather than paying what I still feel is over the odds for a high street photo shoot.
Jamie
Message edited by author 2006-03-03 07:12:58. |
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03/03/2006 07:01:00 AM · #33 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
That's freaking ridiculous; the vinyl-siding guy is a salesamn trying to inflate his bottom line. The photographers are committed professionals with a concept of their own worth.
R. |
The photographer works for a studio which pays sales professionals to inflate their bottom line. The vinyl siding guy is also a committed professional who has a concept of his product's worth and is committed to increasing that worth to benefit his own pocketbook and pay his own bills.
I see absolutely no difference except that you, sir, are a photographer and thus you choose to defend photographers. You are not a vinyl siding salesman, so you have less respect for them. There is really no difference in what is happening here except your perspective.
Sorry, but I disagree, sir. Respectfully.
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03/03/2006 07:16:54 AM · #34 |
People make choices everyday. This is another choice. The people that go to this studio do NOT have to go there. They can go to Sears, Walmart, where-ever.
The photographer in question works for a chain studio. He does not set the prices, I would guess, the studio does. To denegrate the photographer and his work because the studio he works for charges high prices is like blaming the girl behind the counter at Saks for the price of the clothes. If you don't want to pay that amount, go somewhere else.
The OP doesn't have to buy the images. He gets one free and it can end there. He can go to Walmart or its British equivalent and shop there.
As for the pricing some photographers use, often, you get what you pay for. I would rather have a professional with a lot of experience in any kind of work than rely on price alone. Anyone want to risk $50/hr lawyer when on trial? How about a cut rate Dr. for that surgery coming up? The better anyone is at their craft, the more work they have. The more work they have, the more they can charge. Hmmm... A steak at Denny's or one at McCormick & Schmits (sp?)? Everyone has a choice... |
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