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07/27/2003 01:54:49 PM · #1 |
A quick "rules" question,
It is legal to drastically alter the aspect ratio for an entry? |
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07/27/2003 01:59:05 PM · #2 |
It is legal to CROP to any aspect ratio within the minimum and maximum dimensions; the most extreme you can get is 4:1 (640 x 160 pixels).
I do not think it is legal to assymetrically RE-SIZE to another aspect ratio, distorting the image, but that is my opinion and not the "official" position of DPC. |
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07/27/2003 02:06:29 PM · #3 |
I do not think it is legal to assymetrically RE-SIZE to another aspect ratio, distorting the image, but that is my opinion and not the "official" position of DPC.
Thanks GeneralE, It goes against everything I know to alter a shot as I propose to here, but it just seems to work on this shot.
How can I find out the official position of DPC? |
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07/27/2003 02:10:31 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by 'Gringo':
How can I find out the official position of DPC? |
Submit and wait for the dq request. It's unlikely DPC will take an official stance on this until it has to since something like this is debatable based on the rules.
The effect would be applied to the entire image, which is usually the easiest way to tell if a non-filter effect is legal, but it certainly seems like something that would be illegal.. so it's hard to tell.
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07/27/2003 02:11:52 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by 'Gringo':
I do not think it is legal to assymetrically RE-SIZE to another aspect ratio, distorting the image, but that is my opinion and not the "official" position of DPC.
Thanks GeneralE, It goes against everything I know to alter a shot as I propose to here, but it just seems to work on this shot.
How can I find out the official position of DPC? |
1. Use the "Contact" link under the Help Menu to send a note directly to the admins. Can't promise how soon they'll see it or act on it.
2. Hope you get enough Site Council members checking this thread and expressing enough of a consensus for you to act upon.
3. PM site council members and take your own informal poll. I think if you go to the main profiles page you can search/sort by member-type.
Although I think such distortion is illegal here now, I can see ways that it could have been done in the darkroom, so there's some argument for making it legal if it isn't now .... |
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07/27/2003 02:18:50 PM · #6 |
I think I'll just submit the un-altered version and wait for an official reply. If it comes back "OK to do" I'll submit the altered version at that point if time will allow it. (safe than sorry)
Thanks for the help Guys |
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07/27/2003 02:44:33 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by 'Gringo':
(safe than sorry)
Thanks for the help Guys |
Are you sure? You might regret not submitting the photo you REALLY wanted.
If it makes a difference in the quality of the photo, I think I'd submit the altered one and chance the DQ. But your strategy might also depend on if it's for tonight's or Tuesday's deadline, too. |
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07/27/2003 02:57:40 PM · #8 |
My opinion is that this would be legal since it is a whole-image alteration, and does not use an illegal filter.
Again that is my opinion and may or may not reflect the official position of DPC.
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07/27/2003 04:26:21 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
My opinion is that this would be legal since it is a whole-image alteration, and does not use an illegal filter.
Again that is my opinion and may or may not reflect the official position of DPC. |
Terry,
I was initially surprised by your response, but after carefully scouring the text of the rules with this in mind, I can't find anything that even remotely implies this would not be DPC legal. 'S good to know!
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07/27/2003 05:01:00 PM · #10 |
Question: What is the difference between cropping an image and altering the aspect ratio? Isn't it the same thing in the end?
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07/27/2003 05:06:01 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by uabresch:
Question: What is the difference between cropping an image and altering the aspect ratio? Isn't it the same thing in the end? |
I believe he is talking about altering the aspect ratio without cropping. In other words, stretching the photo to fit an aspect ratio it would not normally fit into, and therefore distorting the photo.
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07/27/2003 05:14:53 PM · #12 |
| Thank you. I should try that sometime, sounds like you could get some interesting results. |
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07/27/2003 06:20:26 PM · #13 |
| I have used asymmetric resizing on the 'Square' challenge, and was not dq'd: //www.dpchallenge.com/image.php?IMAGE_ID=11578 (to no avail though, judging from the score; very few understood or liked the joke in the picture and the double meaning of 'square'). |
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07/27/2003 07:25:27 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by johnmk:
I have used asymmetric resizing on the 'Square' challenge, and was not dq'd: //www.dpchallenge.com/image.php?IMAGE_ID=11578 (to no avail though, judging from the score; very few understood or liked the joke in the picture and the double meaning of 'square'). |
Cool! "Too square for a houseboat"! Weird humour though.
Or, maybe I'm one of the squares who don't quite get it. Oh well.
Message edited by author 2003-07-27 19:27:47. |
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07/27/2003 07:43:22 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by kirbic:
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
My opinion is that this would be legal since it is a whole-image alteration, and does not use an illegal filter.
Again that is my opinion and may or may not reflect the official position of DPC. |
Terry,
I was initially surprised by your response, but after carefully scouring the text of the rules with this in mind, I can't find anything that even remotely implies this would not be DPC legal. 'S good to know! |
What "implies" this might not be legal is the section on filters. In general, the principle applied to (unlisted) filters as that any action which MOVES pixels from their original location is probably an illegal effect. Things which change the color of a pixel without moving it are usually OK.
This is somewhat similar to applying a perspective distortion. and unlike the specifically allowed filters, the intent here is NOT to try and render a more realistic-looking image, rather to distort it into something else.
I'm not saying this is illegal or hasn't happened in the past, just I don't think there's a definitive ruling on it ....
Message edited by author 2003-07-27 19:44:17. |
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