Art In Photography - DPChallenge Forums

07/25/2003 09:21:57 AM · #1

Ok, I have been a bit harsh. I apollogize for anyone I have offended. I believe there is more to photographs than just a "cute" kitty cat or a photograph of a flower. It seems some of the critique on dpchallenge involves nothing deeper than the immediacy of the photo. What is so hard about looking beyond that to the artistic endeavor at hand..?? Think about what was going through that person's mind when they took the shot. What total effect were they trying to create? Are the colors soothing?? Are the lines strong or weak and what do they make you feel? Maybe I am missing the point or something, but this is the way I feel about photography....it is a form of art for christsake! Look at it as a piece of art. Look closer...

Jacko

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

07/25/2003 09:52:47 AM · #2

I like nice lookin'at pictures :) I don't view photography to get into grand metapharical things. I have no time to sit there and look for grand meanings in photos in challenges. Not enough time in a day.

An image has to pull me in ... then I'll sit and enjoy the details. If the first impresssion isn't good ... I won't hang around.

hortopth

Canon EOS-D60

07/25/2003 09:59:23 AM · #3

you're a tortured artist in a cruel, cruel world.

07/25/2003 09:59:25 AM · #4

Jacko, I think that is what makes the difference between a photographer, and an artist. I am not saying that I am an artist, just a photographer who tries to create art.

07/25/2003 10:00:41 AM · #5

Hortoph....DAMN STRAIGHT!! LOL :)

autool

Canon EF 28-105mm f/3.5-4.5 II USM

07/25/2003 10:03:41 AM · #6

I guess I'm a Norman Rockwell sort of guy, if it don't grab me I move on. I look longer for the meaning on DPC than I do any other time, just trying to give the picture credit if I can.

Jacko

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

07/25/2003 10:10:31 AM · #7

I'm just a practical guy who likes pwetty pitchas.

07/25/2003 10:12:06 AM · #8

Well, don't get me wrong....I think the initial impact of a photograph is vital. Something does have to "grab" you at first I believe....then takes you in..I like to then look at the photo from top to bottom..take it apart I guess. I think I am over analytical sometimes, but suppose that is just the way I am

autool

Canon EF 28-105mm f/3.5-4.5 II USM

07/25/2003 10:35:45 AM · #9

Originally posted by Stewan:

Nothing wrong with that. If I get grabbed then I look for the elements that snagged me, and try to use them to my benefit later on.

07/25/2003 10:39:50 AM · #10

Autool...as an amateur I am constantly learning as well. From others and just from looking around me in nature.

MarkS224

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

07/25/2003 11:17:51 AM · #11

Stewan, i've read some of your comments and I think you are well out of line. First of all "crap" is not constructive, if you dont like it move on. Personally I think you need to learn some manners and have some respect for others feelings. This doesnt mean dont criticize, just use a little tact!

Secondly since some of what you labeled crap did fairly well, perhaps you should reassess your own knowledge.

One persons crap is another persons art

07/25/2003 11:25:18 AM · #12

Originally posted by MarkS224:

MarkS224..Thank you for making my point clear! :) If you look at the top of this thread I started you will notice I appologized for being so harsh. I have moved on and will not use the word "crap" any longer. I made a mistake with my previous comments..let's drop it shall we? I have!

MarkS224

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

07/25/2003 11:37:21 AM · #13

irockstars

Canon PowerShot A70

07/25/2003 12:13:06 PM · #14

Takes a big man to admit a mistake ;)

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

07/25/2003 12:18:04 PM · #15

Originally posted by irockstars:

Takes a big man to admit a mistake ;)

Thank you! Just want all to know, I am excited to be here and want to share and partake. Sometimes my attitude gets the best 'o me...

zeuszen

Canon EOS-1Ds Mark II

07/25/2003 01:25:05 PM · #16

â�¢ 'Looking closer' is a good way to start.

â�¢ Re-examining my perspective (corner of the world) is a good way to continue.
â�¢ Comparing (with the best photos I've had the fortune of stumbling across in a life too short for knowing the difference between good and best) is a good way to check.
â�¢ Considering 'worth' and merit, given what I feel and can know about the state of the world is a good way to approach a sense of 'quality'.

â�¢ 'Looking closer', again, is also a sound way to finish. It opens the possibility that I may have missed something, that, really, doesn't deserve to be missed, i.e. 'looking closer' as a paradigm for 'study'.

When, at this point, a piece cannot move or exhilerate me, and I remain convinced that it neither stimulates awareness nor kindles resentment against evil, then...

I have either not lived or it is not art.

JEM

Sony DSC-F707

07/25/2003 01:44:21 PM · #17

Stewan - We mediocre mind types breathlessly await the superior mind photograph submittals to the ruthless judgement of DPC viewers. Go ahead...talk is cheap...let us see your pictures.

rickhd13

Sigma 28-300mm f/3.5-6.3 DL Aspherical IF Hyperzoom for Canon

07/25/2003 01:53:05 PM · #18

Originally posted by JEM:

Stewan - We mediocre mind types breathlessly await the superior mind photograph submittals to the ruthless judgement of DPC viewers. Go ahead...talk is cheap...let us see your pictures.

I fell that I must wirgh in on this thread now.

Stewan has done the proper thing here, he has been a man, admitted he was out of line, and apologized publicly in all threads in which he was thought to be out of line.

I commend and respect him for doing this.

I feel that comments such as the one quoted are going to do nothing but further this arguing and fuel more crap.

Stewan has dropped it and moved on, can't the rest of you do the same????

07/25/2003 01:55:43 PM · #19

Originally posted by JEM:

Stewan - We mediocre mind types breathlessly await the superior mind photograph submittals to the ruthless judgement of DPC viewers. Go ahead...talk is cheap...let us see your pictures.

JEM...It's over for christsake! Just drop it!

07/25/2003 01:57:12 PM · #20

Originally posted by rickhd13:

Originally posted by JEM:
Stewan - We mediocre mind types breathlessly await the superior mind photograph submittals to the ruthless judgement of DPC viewers. Go ahead...talk is cheap...let us see your pictures.

I fell that I must wirgh in on this thread now.

Stewan has done the proper thing here, he has been a man, admitted he was out of line, and apologized publicly in all threads in which he was thought to be out of line.

I commend and respect him for doing this.

I feel that comments such as the one quoted are going to do nothing but further this arguing and fuel more crap.

Stewan has dropped it and moved on, can't the rest of you do the same????

Thanks Rick! I guess some individuals like to keep harping on old issues and can't get beyond that. Pretty sad...

DavidLevin

07/25/2003 02:04:25 PM · #21

I agree with you Steve, 100 percent. There is oh so much more to art than technicality and compostion. A person with say a Canon 10-D and 7 years of Photography experience can be worse than a first time photographer. It the eye, not the equipment. But i'll try and stay on topic. The point i'm trying make is that people need to pay more attention to the acutal art, not technical elements. (See my favorites for good photos!!)

magnetic9999