A question relating to rules...multiple images...

Samsung Galaxy S24, S24+, S24 Ultra

02/13/2006 05:03:04 PM · #1

All the threads and questions and rules discussions have got me thinking. I do not ask this to open a can of worms and hope it doesn't. But would someone explain to me the difference between these and why one is legal and one is not:

HDR images - obviously created using more than one image. But in the case of the HDR image it is the same image exposed three ways at the same time and then compiled.

Actions that use data from other images - some actions, to create the effect properly, use textures and information from other images that is merged with the subject image.

Why is it legal to process an image to use as or extract information from an image to use as a texture for an effect in another image when compiling versions of the same image is not?

EDIT: HDR...thanks Bear.

Message edited by author 2006-02-13 17:24:54.

Bear_Music

Sony 24-70mm f/4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

02/13/2006 05:07:47 PM · #2

I think you mean HDR (High Dynamic Range) images? As far as I know these are legal in advanced editing. Especially the ones that are made by layering differently-processed versions of the exact same original.

What actions "use data from other images"? I'm drawing a blank here, can you give examples?

Robt.

02/13/2006 05:27:42 PM · #3

When I inquired about HDR images when I first got the 20D I was informed they were not allowed due to multiple images. If this is not so, can an SC member please clarify?

Actions used in PhotoShop (I don't use it so not familiar with all the actions) but I do remember a thread about using, I think the Dragonizer, where information from another image is used as the texture/roughness/dragonized look in the image it is being used on. Some even posted the images they used for this effect in their submited image and spoke about the different images they have for use to get different effects and how they edited them specifically for this use.

Message edited by author 2006-02-13 17:29:04.

cpanaioti

Canon EF 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 DO IS USM

02/13/2006 05:35:30 PM · #4

Where exposures are made from the same RAW original then from what I understand it's fine. I think there is an ongoing discussion as to what should be allowed from RAW conversion.

Now, if several images are taken (more than one original) and merged with HDR then it is not legal. Just from what I understand/recall from previous discussions.

02/13/2006 05:36:51 PM · #5

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

Where exposures are made from the same RAW original then from what I understand it's fine. I think there is an ongoing discussion as to what should be allowed from RAW conversion.

Ahhh...now this makes more sense.

Canon RF 24-70mm f/2.8 L IS

02/13/2006 05:48:05 PM · #6

Ok...finally found the thread I was looking for and have my answer as far as HDR images is concerned.

Thanks Kirbic! (I even started the thread...go figure)

Message edited by author 2006-02-13 17:49:51.

kirbic

Canon EOS R5

02/13/2006 06:41:45 PM · #7

Hah, the OP beat me to the response, LOL :-)

To clarify on actions that "source" texture from another image, if the action is actually relying on texture from an outside image, this is most probably illegal. Some effects filters "create" texture without explicitly referring to an outside image, and for Advanced Editing, this has been deemed OK in moderation, that is, when it does not fall afoul of the much maligned Major Elements rule by truly changing or obscuring the components of the original image. Hopefully this makes some sort of sense... I know that Major Elements needs clarification big time, and said clarification will be forthcoming.