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02/04/2006 09:22:16 AM · #1
I got my first DQ request today. Not sure why! Anyway, my question is: I have my pictures in Photoshop Album. When I browse, find the picture and hit open, does the EXIF information go with it? If for some reason it does not attach itself, will I get an email asking for it? This is probably covered in some other thread, but I don't want to read each DQ thread to find it.
02/04/2006 09:22:54 AM · #2
Your original, out-of-the-camera file will include the EXIF data.
02/04/2006 09:29:27 AM · #3
So the file will have the picture and EXIF together, and the entire file is sent when selected?
02/04/2006 09:47:12 AM · #4
Originally posted by chaimelle:

I got my first DQ request today. Not sure why! Anyway, my question is: I have my pictures in Photoshop Album. When I browse, find the picture and hit open, does the EXIF information go with it? If for some reason it does not attach itself, will I get an email asking for it? This is probably covered in some other thread, but I don't want to read each DQ thread to find it.

Not to worry... just send the original and a description of your modifications and you will be fine.

Personally, I think the concept of "cheating" is far overworked using the DQ process. Unfortunately, there are folks here that regularly submit DQ requests on a whim. True, there has been a clear cut case of cheating recently uncovered but fortunately that is rare.

The SC does a thankless yet incredible job attempting to police the situation and the rules. Unfortunately the rules have not quite caught up to what real photography is today and until that time arrives there will be countless arguements about what should and should not be acceptable.

No matter what, there will always be those that complain.
02/04/2006 09:56:56 AM · #5
Originally posted by stdavidson:

Personally, I think the concept of "cheating" is far overworked using the DQ process. Unfortunately, there are folks here that regularly submit DQ requests on a whim.


Just to be the devil's advocate, would you be so kind as to provide us with the data you gathered to support this contention.

While it may be true that we have have rarely witnessed intentional violations of the rules, there have been several DQ's that may have been brought upon due to a lack of knowledge of the rules... but they are transgressions none the less and need to be reported.

Just a thought.

Ray

Message edited by author 2006-02-04 09:58:10.
02/04/2006 10:11:56 AM · #6
SC could (of they wanted to) provide us with a generic number, such as n validation requests in 2005, of which m were DQd... I'd be curious to find out even in such a non-specific way, the approx # of validations.
02/04/2006 11:03:04 AM · #7
Originally posted by stdavidson:


Personally, I think the concept of "cheating" is far overworked using the DQ process. Unfortunately, there are folks here that regularly submit DQ requests on a whim. True, there has been a clear cut case of cheating recently uncovered but fortunately that is rare.


it's worth nothing that there are really two levels of SC DQ voting. when an image is requested for DQ, we all review it to see if the argument for requesting the DQ makes sense. at that point we can either DQ it immediately (like if text has been added to the photo), or we can request the original for further review.

we really only request originals for a small fraction of the number of DQs. one person requesting a DQ doesn't initiate the process of requesting an original.

just to clear things up.

i can't help with the stats.
02/04/2006 11:42:45 AM · #8
There are clear cut cases of rules violations in almost every challenge. To see how many, just compare the number of entries at the time the voting starts with the number of entries at the end of voting. Almost always a few are gone by that time. And you can always look at the end of the challenge results to see which ones were DQ'ed and why.

Some people may think of it as whimsical or frivilous to request a DQ. I see it as helping the SC to do their job.

Here's the pertinent section from the rules page:

"Entries will be disqualified for violating any clause of this rule set.

Any registered user may recommend a submission for disqualification if he or she feels that submission has violated a rule. A recommendation should be made by clicking "Recommend this photograph for disqualification" on that image's voting page, and stating the specific violation in the space provided. You should then vote on the photo as if the rule was not broken, and leave the determination up to the Site Council. In order to allow sufficient time for research, disqualification requests should be submitted as soon as the voter becomes aware of a potential rule violation. Disqualification requests should be submitted during the voting period whenever possible but will be accepted up to seven days after the results of the challenge to which the photo was entered are posted."

Keep in mind that failure to meet the challenge's topic is not grounds for DQ.

02/04/2006 12:30:54 PM · #9
Originally posted by muckpond:


it's worth nothing that there are really two levels of SC DQ voting....


I usually don't mind people making spelling errors, unless it dramatically changes the intended meaning...

You meant to say "noting", didn't you?
02/04/2006 12:37:49 PM · #10
I guess you never know why the requestor made the request, but I sure would be interested to know what someone (or I guess several people) thought I did. Doesn't make me angry or anything, just curious.

Edit to add: The funny thing is, I first used advanced editing rules on the shot, and when I went to submit noticed it was to be basic editing so I re-edited.

Message edited by author 2006-02-04 12:42:11.
02/04/2006 01:39:26 PM · #11
Originally posted by srdanz:

Originally posted by muckpond:


it's worth nothing that there are really two levels of SC DQ voting....


I usually don't mind people making spelling errors, unless it dramatically changes the intended meaning...

You meant to say "noting", didn't you?

I'm sure you'd get a large vote of people supporting the original spelling : )
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