Need help: "Fill the Frame" - DPChallenge Forums

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro

07/21/2003 02:52:35 AM · #1

Good morning guys!

As my english is not very good, I canÂ´t understand the description of the challenge. Somebody can explain the meaning of the challenge?

Alpine99

Canon EOS-550D Rebel T2i

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 USM

07/21/2003 03:20:28 AM · #2

Make the whole picture of your subject only.. no extra background detail required.. hope that helps

Alexys

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro

07/21/2003 06:36:30 AM · #3

Thanks Alpine...

Message edited by author 2003-07-21 06:36:57.

dsidwell

Canon EOS-5D

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

07/21/2003 10:30:10 AM · #4

Like this or this or this or this?

I'd love some other examples that show different ways of doing this!

Konador

Canon EOS-500D Rebel T1i

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS

07/21/2003 10:32:18 AM · #5

Originally posted by dsidwell:

Like this or this or this or this?

I'd love some other examples that show different ways of doing this!

Hmm I'm not sure about that... The first 2 definatly fit the challenge, but I can see areas in the second 2 which are not the subject of the photo.

07/21/2003 10:35:20 AM · #6

Originally posted by dsidwell:

Like this or this or this or this?

I'd love some other examples that show different ways of doing this!

Do you really think this is what it means?
Why not something like this?This

hortopth

Canon EOS-D60

07/21/2003 10:41:07 AM · #7

I like that take on it (autool). Of course you know what happens when you have a unique view on the topic.

07/21/2003 10:43:55 AM · #8

Originally posted by hortopth:

I like that take on it (autool). Of course you know what happens when you have a unique view on the topic.

My take on it is that sometimes a picture contains many subjects and each one is a contributor.
Lets keep an open mind on a challenge that has so many different TAKES.

Jacko

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

07/21/2003 10:50:06 AM · #9

Well I'm going to play it safe and fill the frame completely with the subject. Too many anal retentive folks every week.

dacrazyrn

Nikon D300

Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR II

07/21/2003 04:27:02 PM · #10

Originally posted by hortopth:

I like that take on it (autool). Of course you know what happens when you have a unique view on the topic.

I would agree here. Here comes the anal retentive with a bug in their butt-->"What's filling the frame? The mountains? I can see sky! There is a cabin there. That does not fill the frame. Does not fit challenge!! 1!!" Technically every picture you take "fills the frame." RIght?
Compose your photograph so that nothing but your subject is in the frame. This is gonna be another "interprative" challenge, with alot of bitching (when is there not). Someones subject could be treeS or mountainS, but voters will say mountainS is not A subject, A mountain might be (but then you have the problem of sky and clouds in it to deal with) HAHA!! Have fun all

Message edited by author 2003-07-21 16:31:30.

jerrft

Konica Minolta DiMAGE Z3

07/21/2003 04:30:47 PM · #11

No borders either without adding empty space!!! :)

Jerry

frisca

Nikon D70

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D

07/21/2003 04:31:48 PM · #12

Actually Ben, I think that there is very little (and truly empty and indistinct) space in those last two examples and I would say they both fill the frame. A bit of breathing room does not mean that the subject doesn't fill the frame, they just happen not to be square subjects and so to fit more of them into the shot, a little space must be given over. Would you have voted those last two down in this challenge? (just a curiosity, you don't have to answer!)

I think those are great examples to post, David!

Originally posted by Konador:

Originally posted by dsidwell:
Like this or this or this or this?

I'd love some other examples that show different ways of doing this!

Hmm I'm not sure about that... The first 2 definatly fit the challenge, but I can see areas in the second 2 which are not the subject of the photo.

MarkS224

Nikon AF Zoom-Nikkor 70-300mm f/4.0-5.6G

07/21/2003 04:50:15 PM · #13

Thought this would be very simple, now I'm not so sure. Dsidwells examples fit nicely, some more than others. Autools fit in that the subject is the landscape, but I am SURE there are others who STRONGLY disagree! Personally I would give the landscape a 10 it is truely a phenominal photo. I imagine it will be abound 5, but might submit anyway just to get it seen!

How about multipule subjects like this: //www.dpchallenge.com/image.php?IMAGE_ID=27499

Mark

tlalonde

Nikon D850

07/21/2003 05:33:01 PM · #14

I, too, thought this was an easy one. Now the line is blurring. Hopefully this won't be translated into a 'macro' challenge to avoid low scores.

Message edited by author 2003-07-21 17:33:23.

irockstars

Canon PowerShot A70

07/21/2003 05:34:52 PM · #15

According to my teachers, the definition of 'filling the frame' is having something run off every edge. Other than negative space =)

hortopth

Canon EOS-D60

07/21/2003 07:09:14 PM · #16

SOMETHING has to run off the edge in every photo. This one is wide open.

If what is running off the side of the photo is a necessary part of the photo (see autool pic), then that works. I think you would be hard pressed to find something which doesn't fit the challenge.

looking...

hortopth

Canon EOS-D60

07/21/2003 07:14:39 PM · #17

.. the books looks good too.
I think people (voters) need to relax about filling the challenge requirements

Konador

Canon EOS-500D Rebel T1i

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS

07/21/2003 07:38:48 PM · #18

Originally posted by frisca:

Would you have voted those last two down in this challenge?

Maybe only by 1 point... if at all. They're near enough for me, but I'm thinking about other voters.

Message edited by author 2003-07-21 19:39:18.

ScottK

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

07/22/2003 02:35:58 PM · #19

Originally posted by hortopth:

.. the books looks good too.
I think people (voters) need to relax about filling the challenge requirements

Yeah, why should we have to limit ourselves so much. Lets all just forget about the challenge topics and take pictures of whatever we want. Who needs rules anyway.

[...removing toungue from cheek....]

As far as autool's idea picture, I think that many are going to look at that and say the cabin is the subject, and that the hills are background and landscape. Just because something fills the frame doesn't mean the subject fills the frame. If there's a chance that what consititutes the subject can be debated, then your pictures going to be fighting an uphill battle from the start.

I think that filling the frame and making the subject still interesting is a great challenge. Why water it down by trying to stretch the bounds? Why not stretch yourself instead? The shots that dsidwell posted are great examples, and show how much creativity you can bring to this.

And like Konador, the 3rd and 4th ones did stand out as soon as I looked at them for technically not "totally" filling the frame. I probably wouldn't vote them down, but the fact that it stood out would open the door for some point deductions from some....

07/22/2003 02:54:51 PM · #20

Well, I entered a picture in this challenge that the anal retentives will give ones to, and the photographers will score higher. The main thing is that I had to try to meet the challenge and will probably gain from it. I know that I had fun doing it and ,hey, I like it. I hope that every one enjoys themselves and also learn while doing it.

Good luck.

MarkS224

07/22/2003 03:17:47 PM · #21

OK we've heard about autool and dsidwells pics, but i never got a response on mine : //www.dpchallenge.com/image.php?IMAGE_ID=27499
Do multipule subjects work? It definately bleeds over the edge.
Thanks
Mark

StevePax

Canon PowerShot S50

07/22/2003 03:25:08 PM · #22

Originally posted by MarkS224:

I say yes, it fits. Your subject is not "a book," but rather a table of books, which definitely fills the whole frame.