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 01/21/2006 02:26:33 PM · #1
Hi,

I've had some comments that suggest that a plain white border distracts/detracts from my image.

IMAGE REFERENCE & LINK REMOVED

I wonder what the consensus on DPC was regarding borders?

Message edited by Manic - Do NOT link to or discuss your entry during voting.
 01/21/2006 02:30:29 PM · #2
I don't think you should be discussing challenge entries until after the voting has finished.
 01/21/2006 02:31:13 PM · #3
You should remove the link to the picture...
 01/21/2006 02:31:22 PM · #4
Not supposed to discuss images currently being voted on... might wanna edit and take your link out ...

Message edited by author 2006-01-21 14:33:04.
 01/21/2006 02:31:42 PM · #5
i don't think you can show your pic during voting
 01/21/2006 02:32:16 PM · #6
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Not supposed to disguss images currently being voted on... might wanna edit and take your link out ...


disguss? i thought that's something else :P
 01/21/2006 02:32:25 PM · #7
Yep, very bad manners to reveal your entry before voting is over...
 01/21/2006 02:33:01 PM · #8
I think it's because the hands are so close to the frame. IF there was more space on the sides it would look better.
 01/21/2006 02:33:38 PM · #9
Originally posted by biteme:
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Not supposed to disguss images currently being voted on... might wanna edit and take your link out ...


disguss? i thought that's something else :P


Sorry, my keyboard is a bit sticky :-P
 01/21/2006 02:34:54 PM · #10
I have very strong feelings about borders. Nine times out of ten, I hate them!!!! Especially big, thick, black ones. In our 640 pixel world, I'd much rather look at an interesting picture than a boring border.

There... now I feel better.

P.S. I've never voted down a picture because it has a border.
 01/21/2006 02:34:54 PM · #11
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Originally posted by biteme:
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Not supposed to disguss images currently being voted on... might wanna edit and take your link out ...


disguss? i thought that's something else :P


Sorry, my keyboard is a bit sticky :-P


I really don't wanna know why! LOL!
 01/21/2006 02:37:59 PM · #12
Originally posted by Germaine:
... I've never voted down a picture because it has a border.


I have, when the border was so grossly distracting that it began to wreak havoc with my senses.
 01/21/2006 02:38:54 PM · #13
I've got some comments on the border here - it is made so it enhances (IMO) the photo. What are your thoughts on this kind of border (more involved with the photo than not)?

01/21/2006 02:40:59 PM · #14
Originally posted by biteme:
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Originally posted by biteme:


disguss? i thought that's something else :P


Sorry, my keyboard is a bit sticky :-P


I really don't wanna know why! LOL!


Coca-Cola.. I swear! ;-) Get your mind out of the gutter :-P LOL
 01/21/2006 02:43:13 PM · #15
Agreed, I find 9 out of 10 (or something along those lines) borders on this site distracting. Just because it's plain white doesn't mean it isn't distracting. If it's too large or if it's uneven it can be very distracting. It can also be distracting if it clashes with the image (this is less common with white borders, but can happen).

Now, I wont vote a photo lower jsut because it has a border, but I will vote it lower if it's a bad border for that photo. When you chose to put a border on your photo, that border becomes part of the presentation of the image, much like the title. If the border doesn't fit the photo or is distracting, it detracts from the overall experience of viewing an image. Simply put, a good image is not as good when presented with a bad border. People need to think about how they're presenting their images, because it effects how the images are percieved. When we vote on images, we're judging everything we're presented with. We can't just choose to ignore the outermost 10 pixels.
 01/21/2006 02:43:32 PM · #16
Originally posted by srdanz:
I've got some comments on the border here - it is made so it enhances (IMO) the photo. What are your thoughts on this kind of border (more involved with the photo than not)?



Well, I like how you have parts of the image over the border. Think it adds some effect. So, you don't have a border, just to have a border. It was an artistic decision on your part.

There should always be a reason to add the border. If for example the image doesn't work well against a neutral grey background, a border might be required.
 01/21/2006 02:44:38 PM · #17
Originally posted by srdanz:
I've got some comments on the border here - it is made so it enhances (IMO) the photo. What are your thoughts on this kind of border (more involved with the photo than not)?


IMO, good attempt but it adds nothing to the appeal of the photo. Borders that attempt t give a photo a "framed and hung in a gallery" feel just don't work. The best border is the one you don't notice at all. Very thin black or white line is best, again IMO.
 01/21/2006 02:46:59 PM · #18
Originally posted by Tom_Robbrecht:
I don't think you should be discussing challenge entries until after the voting has finished.


Whoops, sorry about that. I'm quite new to DPC and wasn't sure of the etiquette on this issue.

Won't happen again!
 01/21/2006 02:48:07 PM · #19
I use borders a lot on my print images, but now I rarely use anything more than a 2-3 pixel black line on entries, if anything at all.
 01/21/2006 02:51:51 PM · #20


The only border I've used on an entry. I was hoping to emphasize that the image was square (for the Shapes Challenge). Guess I wasn't that successful... lol
 01/21/2006 02:56:44 PM · #21
In some cases a border enhances the image but should be a thin edge around the picture. Occasionally a bicolor border can be used to good effect if the colors reflect or complement colors already present in the image. I don't vote down on bordered images unless they are too wide and tend to dominate the image. Textured borders should never be used.
 01/21/2006 03:03:21 PM · #22
Best Of 2005 is the first time in 19 challenges that I have used a border & the first comment I got was that the border is a bit distracting. I probably would have used borders more often but I have only just worked out how to do simple borders. I like smaller subtle borders. The larger thicker borders I think really do detract from the image that you are looking at.
 01/21/2006 03:05:53 PM · #23
Originally posted by ElGordo:
In some cases a border enhances the image but should be a thin edge around the picture. Occasionally a bicolor border can be used to good effect if the colors reflect or complement colors already present in the image...

: )

01/21/2006 03:14:24 PM · #24


I like borders as you can tell...I think they add to the overall image, when used properly.
 01/21/2006 03:24:22 PM · #25
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by ElGordo:
In some cases a border enhances the image but should be a thin edge around the picture. Occasionally a bicolor border can be used to good effect if the colors reflect or complement colors already present in the image...

: )



Nice example, Paul. I would prefer the yellow band thinner at the top and sides, but this works very well.
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