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01/21/2006 12:44:21 PM · #1
When I create duotones in photoshop and then save them, the saved jpegs do not look the same as the photoshop screen... They appear to be different tonality. Here is an example...



Above is what I see in Photoshop.



Is what I see when I save as a jpeg.

HELP!
01/21/2006 12:47:11 PM · #2
Make sure 'Proof Colours' is turned off.

View / Proof Colours ... or... CTRL-Y
01/21/2006 12:48:40 PM · #3
It's off... This only seems to happen with my duotones. My color or b/w shots appear to be exactly the same when saved... I don't get it.
01/21/2006 12:50:24 PM · #4
Have you tried converting the duotone back to RGB color prior to saving?
01/21/2006 12:51:17 PM · #5
After doing the Duotone, are you converting it back to RGB?
(too slow - lagging behind as usual..)

Message edited by author 2006-01-21 12:52:03.
01/21/2006 12:51:33 PM · #6
In your PS history list, what's that last action? 'RGB...something'
01/21/2006 12:52:30 PM · #7
Originally posted by kirbic:

Have you tried converting the duotone back to RGB color prior to saving?


Originally posted by bradp:

After doing the Duotone, are you converting it back to RGB?


Answer to both is yes!
01/21/2006 12:52:51 PM · #8
Photoshop's Duotone format is proprietary, and the only file formats which support it are .PSD and .EPS. To make it a JPEG, as mentioned, you first have to convert it back to RGB.

As an extra note, I've also found that Grayscale JPEGs often don't display correctly, so I convert all entries back to RGB mode, even if it's a grayscale image.
01/21/2006 12:54:14 PM · #9
Could it have anything to do with this error I get when opening shots converted in RSE?

01/21/2006 12:55:43 PM · #10
Embedded profiles (especially one not matched to your monitor) are often the cause of color shifts. I try not to use them myself ....
01/21/2006 12:57:50 PM · #11
Originally posted by GeneralE:

Embedded profiles (especially one not matched to your monitor) are often the cause of color shifts. I try not to use them myself ....


But according to the warning I get the embedded profile and working space profile are the same. I've been using convert document to workspace.

I hate color management...
01/21/2006 01:01:31 PM · #12
Have you tried to optimize your monitor? That can have an effect too. :)
01/21/2006 01:06:09 PM · #13
Originally posted by peachesdeguzman:

Have you tried to optimize your monitor? That can have an effect too. :)


Trying that again.
01/21/2006 01:06:13 PM · #14
Go to Edit > Colour settings... and make sure your Working Space is set to sRGB. If it's anything else (it might be default to Adobe RGB, can't remember) it won't look the same when you go back to explorer or the media viewer as they're all sRGB.

The monitor calibration has nothing to do with this, as the change is relative.

Message edited by author 2006-01-21 13:09:16.
01/21/2006 01:16:31 PM · #15
Originally posted by jimmythefish:

Go to Edit > Colour settings... and make sure your Working Space is set to sRGB. If it's anything else (it might be default to Adobe RGB, can't remember) it won't look the same when you go back to explorer or the media viewer as they're all sRGB.

The monitor calibration has nothing to do with this, as the change is relative.


As posted in the warning box I get above my work space is sRGB and so is the embedded profiles of the conversions from RSE...
01/21/2006 01:18:55 PM · #16
how about "levels" ?
01/21/2006 01:22:37 PM · #17
Oh, sorry, didn't open that. What's your current RGB colour management policy?

Originally posted by TooCool:

Originally posted by jimmythefish:

Go to Edit > Colour settings... and make sure your Working Space is set to sRGB. If it's anything else (it might be default to Adobe RGB, can't remember) it won't look the same when you go back to explorer or the media viewer as they're all sRGB.

The monitor calibration has nothing to do with this, as the change is relative.


As posted in the warning box I get above my work space is sRGB and so is the embedded profiles of the conversions from RSE...
01/21/2006 01:24:57 PM · #18
Originally posted by TooCool:

Originally posted by peachesdeguzman:

Have you tried to optimize your monitor? That can have an effect too. :)


Trying that again.


OK...I think I got it. After running Adobe Gamma and reloading the original sRGB profile and not making any changes to the settings (all default) the files now look the same when saved. I do not get the error message when loading the RSE conversions either. New questions... Are my color photos that I had been saving off too and I just can't see the differences due to my color blind issues? Will my (duotone) prints now be correct?

I hate color management... (Did I say that already?)

Message edited by author 2006-01-21 13:26:31.
01/21/2006 01:25:42 PM · #19
Originally posted by jimmythefish:

Oh, sorry, didn't open that. What's your current RGB colour management policy?


Not sure what you mean...
01/21/2006 01:31:28 PM · #20
In Colour Settings there's a dropdown for RGB in the Colour Management Policies section which allowes you to turn it off, to preserve embedded profiles, or to convert to working RGB. That can make the difference. There's a paragraph explaining each as you select it.

Originally posted by TooCool:

Originally posted by jimmythefish:

Oh, sorry, didn't open that. What's your current RGB colour management policy?


Not sure what you mean...
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