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01/11/2006 12:59:18 PM · #26
There's a saying that goes something like this "Trust your neighbors and tie up your camels at night."

Your appearance has little to do with it. You are a woman and you spend time alone. That makes you a prime target for predators. If you consider yourself naive, I suggest you spend some time googling serial killers and sexual slavery. People are snatched up all the time, never to be seen again. It even happens in public places. You shouldn't be paranoid, but you should be alert AT ALL TIMES and have a plan for protecting yourself should something happen.
01/11/2006 01:03:50 PM · #27
I believe in karma. So if I ever see my night frighters ever again... well I won't lash out. Actually throw that thought, I don't know what I'd do. I just hope they know what they're doing and realise what they've done isn't right. If not then, don't know. Shit happens.

I come quite stubborn with my safety. How ironic though, I've taken martial arts class and gone quite far, but under attack well I stand like a dummy. Oh well, one day it will come into good use like I wouldn't get hurt so badly falling off a motorcycle.

Message edited by author 2006-01-11 13:07:36.
01/11/2006 01:07:34 PM · #28
Originally posted by laurielblack:

You've seen one, you've seen them all, I'd think. ;)


Some have different hair cuts!!
01/11/2006 01:10:26 PM · #29
Originally posted by greatandsmall:

Originally posted by NathanW:

What about a Taco Bell employee?


LOL! Please tell me that was a deliberate innuendo, so that I don't feel so twisted.


01/11/2006 01:11:14 PM · #30
Originally posted by dsmeth:

Originally posted by laurielblack:

You've seen one, you've seen them all, I'd think. ;)


Some have different hair cuts!!


LMFAO...
01/11/2006 01:13:44 PM · #31
Originally posted by greatandsmall:

There's a saying that goes something like this "Trust your neighbors and tie up your camels at night."

Your appearance has little to do with it. You are a woman and you spend time alone. That makes you a prime target for predators. If you consider yourself naive, I suggest you spend some time googling serial killers and sexual slavery. People are snatched up all the time, never to be seen again. It even happens in public places. You shouldn't be paranoid, but you should be alert AT ALL TIMES and have a plan for protecting yourself should something happen.


Sorry I disagree! The chances of you being the subject of a serious sexual attack are fairly small in most countries. Unfortunately the press coverage of such attacks and the seemingly popular use of this subject onfilm and tv progs, makes it appear that every young woman or indeed any woman is likely to be attacked. This leads to women living in fear and is not necessary. Obviously one takes sensible precautions but if you are forever anticipating being snatched or attacked you are limiting your opportunities and your life in general.
P
01/11/2006 01:15:43 PM · #32
No matter how you do it, its important to have a yearly exam. Unfortunately Cancer sometimes does not give too much advance warning.

When I was 14 I began having gynecological problems. I guess I don't have the answer on how to make your first appointment. However, those problems continued resulting in Infertility problems (subsequetnly ruining a marriage...but thats a different story).

THEN, in 2003, 3 months after a clear yearly exam, I had an abnormal menstrual period. Upon visiting the Dr. it was discovered that my Uterus was full of polyps. These polyps contained cancer cells and were attaching to the Uterine lineing. The Uterine lining contained pre-cancerous Uterine Cancer cells. About as fast as they could schedule it I had a Hysterectomy. I was lucky, as with Uterine Cancer, removal of the Uterus removes the cancer. However, gone undetected, I would not be here today.

I'm not a doom and gloom kinda person. But I take this very serious. Obviously with my years of medical history I was already right on top of this.

Moral to my story: Not only important for annual exams, baseline history, but ANY change....DON'T WAIT.
01/11/2006 01:17:30 PM · #33
Originally posted by Riponlady:

Originally posted by greatandsmall:

There's a saying that goes something like this "Trust your neighbors and tie up your camels at night."

Your appearance has little to do with it. You are a woman and you spend time alone. That makes you a prime target for predators. If you consider yourself naive, I suggest you spend some time googling serial killers and sexual slavery. People are snatched up all the time, never to be seen again. It even happens in public places. You shouldn't be paranoid, but you should be alert AT ALL TIMES and have a plan for protecting yourself should something happen.


Sorry I disagree! The chances of you being the subject of a serious sexual attack are fairly small in most countries. Unfortunately the press coverage of such attacks and the seemingly popular use of this subject onfilm and tv progs, makes it appear that every young woman or indeed any woman is likely to be attacked. This leads to women living in fear and is not necessary. Obviously one takes sensible precautions but if you are forever anticipating being snatched or attacked you are limiting your opportunities and your life in general.
P


Well, I don't want to hijack this thread, but all you have to do is search for missing persons and read the stories of those people. If she's so concerned about her father's reaction to going to the GYN, she certainly must care what he would think if she vanished. It may not happen often, but it could be prevented a great deal of the time.

Edit: I'm not talking about paranoia. I'm talking about simple things everyone could do to protect themselves.

Message edited by author 2006-01-11 13:18:35.
01/11/2006 01:18:54 PM · #34
Originally posted by Riponlady:

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How on earth do women in the US afford to have babies? It must cost a fortune to visit the hospital weekly, have all the necessary tests and scans as well as the actual birth with midwife and hospital stay!


A lot of us here have Health Insurance, a must in most cases, although some cannot afford it. The total costs for the delivery of our daughter 10 years ago was roughly $ 9,000 US, I'd hate to think how much it would cost now, but I'll find out again in March. I don't think having Insurance in places like Australia is a big priority, but certainly it is here, most jobs offer it and you just have a deduction taken out of your pay.

As for seeing an OB/GYN, if you aren't comfortable, you could always request a Nurse be present during examination. It's not as bad as one would think, to visit one, but I would find a recommended one for sure.
01/11/2006 01:21:39 PM · #35
Dassilem: I'm glad you survived. I guess should do it all at once on my 20th birthday then. Shave my head then pop by the gyn's office.

Greatandsmall: Me missing... that's just as bad as me telling my dad that I lost my virginity with our live in maid. Especially me being treated like an only child and the only kid he has seen grown up, while my other 5 siblings didn't get to see much of him. But I like my carefree life in some sense it's very liberating.

Message edited by author 2006-01-11 13:22:33.
01/11/2006 01:25:06 PM · #36
Originally posted by pa_cuthbert:

Shave my head then pop by the gyn's office.



shave the head??? I don't remember that being a gyn office pre-requisite??? and I've been doing it all wrong all these years!

Thanks by the way...
01/11/2006 01:29:05 PM · #37
Originally posted by dassilem:

Originally posted by pa_cuthbert:

Shave my head then pop by the gyn's office.



shave the head??? I don't remember that being a gyn office pre-requisite??? and I've been doing it all wrong all these years!

Thanks by the way...

Lol, sorry I should have elaborated on that a bit more. I've been planning to donate my hair to Locks of Love on my 20th birthday, so I decided I'll shave my head to liberate myself as well. So since a lot of things will probably be going on (in my head at least), I'll do that examination on the same day as well.
01/11/2006 01:29:07 PM · #38
I guess its the same for guys when they see their Urologist for that prostate exam. Prostate cances kills as many males here as does breast cancer in woman, Just treat it it as yuo would a visit to the dentist .
01/11/2006 01:34:39 PM · #39
Originally posted by pa_cuthbert:

Lol, sorry I should have elaborated on that a bit more. I've been planning to donate my hair to Locks of Love on my 20th birthday, so I decided I'll shave my head to liberate myself as well. So since a lot of things will probably be going on (in my head at least), I'll do that examination on the same day as well.


My stepdaughter donated her hair to Locks of Love. It was down to her butt, she cut it to her shoulders. It was something she decided she wanted to do on her own....she was 11.
01/11/2006 01:35:20 PM · #40
Originally posted by kiwinick:

Just treat it it as yuo would a visit to the dentist .


Open up and say ahhh?
01/11/2006 01:38:27 PM · #41
Originally posted by hutch699:

Originally posted by kiwinick:

Just treat it it as yuo would a visit to the dentist .


Open up and say ahhh?

That is hilarious! I can only imagine... oh dear me. Wow, your daughter is amazing. My physical science teacher had long hair and cut his short. I knew about the hair donation when I asked him why he cut it. Which was about a year ago I think. I'm just making sure I have 10 inches or more of hair to be given.

Message edited by author 2006-01-11 13:39:23.
01/11/2006 01:43:10 PM · #42
I thought it was a pretty strong statement for a 11 year old to make myself. I was suprised. Her hair was beautiful, but her statement made her even more lovely.
01/11/2006 01:45:31 PM · #43
At times, I think kids are so much more sensible then adults themselves. I admire that. Kids have more morals than most adults I know, I wonder what happened as we grow up?
01/11/2006 01:51:12 PM · #44
Originally posted by pa_cuthbert:


Lol, sorry I should have elaborated on that a bit more. I've been planning to donate my hair to Locks of Love on my 20th birthday, so I decided I'll shave my head to liberate myself as well. So since a lot of things will probably be going on (in my head at least), I'll do that examination on the same day as well.


Why not have matching haircuts then, top and bottom? ;-)
01/11/2006 01:55:04 PM · #45
Originally posted by Telehubbie:

Why not have matching haircuts then, top and bottom? ;-)


Don't get her started... I remember seeing a nice long thread on that subject ;-)
01/11/2006 01:58:52 PM · #46
Originally posted by Telehubbie:

Why not have matching haircuts then, top and bottom? ;-)


I think one or the other would look really weird :-)
01/11/2006 02:04:22 PM · #47
Originally posted by Riponlady:

Sorry I disagree! The chances of you being the subject of a serious sexual attack are fairly small in most countries. Unfortunately the press coverage of such attacks and the seemingly popular use of this subject onfilm and tv progs, makes it appear that every young woman or indeed any woman is likely to be attacked. This leads to women living in fear and is not necessary. Obviously one takes sensible precautions but if you are forever anticipating being snatched or attacked you are limiting your opportunities and your life in general.
P


My relpy to this quote has no association to the thread topic of OBGYN exams. It is particularily intended to address some facts regarding women and assault. 25% (that is 1 in 4) women, have been or will be assaulted in their lifetime. Of those that are targeted, the highest percentage for escape/avoiding rape is 50%. Meaning that 50% will be raped no matter what they do. Those that do escape rape, will most often succeed via resistance. The odds are not good no matter what, however, the best odds are with violent resistence. Violence (battering) against the woman occurs either BEFORE, DURING or AFTER the assault. This make it a double concern for the victim.

If the notion of 75% of women not being assaulted is the basis for the position that it is overblown and hyped by the media, then we simply disagree. Ultimately, individual decisons on preparation, daily routines, and whether or not one listened to their Etheric sense (sometimes called women's intuition), have a bearing on the risk level for them. 25% vs 75%. In the end, it is better to be prepared and not need the preparation, than to be unprepared and need it - in my opinion.

Now we return you to your regularly scheduled programming.
01/11/2006 02:17:34 PM · #48
Originally posted by Riponlady:

Originally posted by greatandsmall:

There's a saying that goes something like this "Trust your neighbors and tie up your camels at night."

Your appearance has little to do with it. You are a woman and you spend time alone. That makes you a prime target for predators. If you consider yourself naive, I suggest you spend some time googling serial killers and sexual slavery. People are snatched up all the time, never to be seen again. It even happens in public places. You shouldn't be paranoid, but you should be alert AT ALL TIMES and have a plan for protecting yourself should something happen.


Sorry I disagree! The chances of you being the subject of a serious sexual attack are fairly small in most countries. Unfortunately the press coverage of such attacks and the seemingly popular use of this subject onfilm and tv progs, makes it appear that every young woman or indeed any woman is likely to be attacked. This leads to women living in fear and is not necessary. Obviously one takes sensible precautions but if you are forever anticipating being snatched or attacked you are limiting your opportunities and your life in general.
P


The chances of being in an auto accident are also small, but I always wear my seatbelt and keep my car maintained. It's not just about women's safety, it's about personal safety, regardless of gender. Paranoia is not the answer, but a total disregard for safety just because the probability is small is not the answer either.
01/11/2006 02:39:35 PM · #49
the buildup is much worse than the actual visit, just remember that they do this all day,every day. they've seen worse!! lol.

and it will be over in like an hour, and done with.
01/11/2006 03:41:32 PM · #50
Originally posted by Flash:



My relpy to this quote has no association to the thread topic of OBGYN exams. It is particularily intended to address some facts regarding women and assault. 25% (that is 1 in 4) women, have been or will be assaulted in their lifetime. Of those that are targeted, the highest percentage for escape/avoiding rape is 50%. Meaning that 50% will be raped no matter what they do. Those that do escape rape, will most often succeed via resistance. The odds are not good no matter what, however, the best odds are with violent resistence. Violence (battering) against the woman occurs either BEFORE, DURING or AFTER the assault. This make it a double concern for the victim.

If the notion of 75% of women not being assaulted is the basis for the position that it is overblown and hyped by the media, then we simply disagree. Ultimately, individual decisons on preparation, daily routines, and whether or not one listened to their Etheric sense (sometimes called women's intuition), have a bearing on the risk level for them. 25% vs 75%. In the end, it is better to be prepared and not need the preparation, than to be unprepared and need it - in my opinion.

Now we return you to your regularly scheduled programming.


Sorry to hijack this thread but I would like to know where you got this % from? I accessed this site
rape stats
and found in the US ( which haas 13x more rapes than UK) the stats for rapes is 72 in 100,000 which is 0.072%.

Yes women are assaulted but if the stats were as high as you say, there woukd be a huge outcry. We would all know at least 20 women who had been raped! I am not trying to say women should not be careful and take the usual sensible precautions, I just don't want every woman to live in fear and not travel, go out at night, trust people because they expect to be raped ast some point in their lives.

Men and women are assaulted every day but lets keep all this in perspective. The same goes for the chances of children being kidnapped - be careful but don't stop your child playing in parks or going to the mall, let them walk to places and don't put the fear of all people into them.
I'll probably get hammered for this but I suggest we start another rant rather than continue to hijack this thread so no more from me here!
Sorry p-a!

Pauline
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