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01/09/2006 01:09:32 AM · #1 |
I'm having a really hard time here. So many of the images are just bright and colorful, but there isn't a particular thing that makes the subject pop out at me, as I thought the directive of the challenge said to do. I mean, if the background is really bright and showcases the subject, fine, or if the subject is a stand alone burst, fine, but I am having a dilema with really good images that are just bright and colorful throughout.
Am I the only one? |
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01/09/2006 01:12:06 AM · #2 |
I've noticed the same thing. Except for a few images that really made me say "wow!", many of the shots seem kind of bland. :(
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01/09/2006 01:13:46 AM · #3 |
| I have interpreted it as using color on the main subject to make the subject stand out, or using color mainly in the background to make the subject stand out. Lol...my score is already dropping though...I should have just done a flower, creativity gets you nowhere here. DPC voters seem to want the same pictures to win over and over. |
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01/09/2006 01:17:11 AM · #4 |
No you are not alone. In thumbnails, they all looked great. Then I see that a lot of them have the main subject centered and in color, or an entire colorful photo. My idea was to offset the main subject of the photograph with color and not have a color shot head on or entirely. Some understood it as I, it is plain to see. Some saw it like Sunshine. So it is difficult to vote now if there are going to be two different interpretations.
So far I am voting higher based on my interpretation. I would imagine others will do the same, not sure. I do have to go back and fix some voting I already did though. It's late and being so mystified I think tomorrow I will see things more clearly as to how to vote this one.
Rose
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01/09/2006 01:21:33 AM · #5 |
| I think you can have quite a few combinations and meet the challenge: colourful subject, background, both, all can work. What is important IMO is that somehow colour is used to make the subject stand out. Which part is colourful (subject, backgroun, both) is not so important. |
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01/09/2006 01:22:56 AM · #6 |
Then what is the meaning of "offset" in the description? Just a bit mystified by that particular word I guess.
Use a colorful impact to offset your subject from the rest of the photograph
To me, offset means not centered and not main. However, the way it is worded, I guess it can be taken either way. I don't think this was ever discussed prior. I just took it to mean "offset" your subject from the rest of the photograph and not to mean make color you main subject or stand out.
Rose
Message edited by author 2006-01-09 01:25:26.
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01/09/2006 01:24:57 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by ursula:
I think you can have quite a few combinations and meet the challenge: colourful subject, background, both, all can work. What is important IMO is that somehow colour is used to make the subject stand out. Which part is colourful (subject, backgroun, both) is not so important. |
Yes, I buy what ursula said. Lots of ways to get this to work. I look at the picture and ask, "Is color helping me understand the subject?" Then I ask, "Is this a good photo?" If the answer is yes to both, high score...
Another way to look at it is to ask, "If I took away the color, would the picture suffer." If the answer is yes, the entry is succeeding. If the picture would be just as strong as a B&W, then it isn't.
Message edited by author 2006-01-09 01:26:25. |
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01/09/2006 01:25:14 AM · #8 |
As I read it, "offset" in this case means "stand out".
Message edited by author 2006-01-09 01:26:08. |
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01/09/2006 01:25:39 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Originally posted by ursula:
I think you can have quite a few combinations and meet the challenge: colourful subject, background, both, all can work. What is important IMO is that somehow colour is used to make the subject stand out. Which part is colourful (subject, backgroun, both) is not so important. |
Yes, I buy what ursula said. Lots of ways to get this to work. I look at the picture and ask, "Is color helping me understand the subject?" Then I ask, "Is this a good photo?" If the answer is yes to both, high score... |
Well said.
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01/09/2006 01:26:09 AM · #10 |
Originally posted by ursula:
As I read it, "offset" in this case means "stand out". What do you think it means? |
Sorry, I answered you as you were writing below.
Rose
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01/09/2006 01:27:07 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by Rose8699:
Then what is the meaning of "offset" in the description? Just a bit mystified by that particular word I guess.
Use a colorful impact to offset your subject from the rest of the photograph
To me, offset means not centered and not main. However, the way it is worded, I guess it can be taken either way. I don't think this was ever discussed prior. I just took it to mean "offset" your subject from the rest of the photograph and not to mean make color you main subject or stand out.
Rose |
I very much doubt that the description means that the subject can not be centred.
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01/09/2006 01:27:53 AM · #12 |
| There are some pretty good submissions, where the colour really stood out, and like the fly in Bug's Life said "I can't help ittt.....ZZzap" |
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01/09/2006 01:28:21 AM · #13 |
Oh, I am sure it can be centered. That is fine with me, but I just never read it that way. Many of the photos do have the color offset to extremely offset. Then again, about the same number have it centered or main.
I guess when voting I have to just rid my head of the tunnel vision and do as DrAchoo. LOL....
It is just that the word "offset" is used so often in photography to not have your subject centered, or to use rule of thirds, etc. So when I saw that word, I immediately thought it should not be centered or main.
Rose
Message edited by author 2006-01-09 01:29:22.
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01/09/2006 01:28:51 AM · #14 |
Originally posted by ursula:
As I read it, "offset" in this case means "stand out". |
Me too, Ursula!!! And when the entire image is just bombarding me with color, the subject gets lost in the translation. |
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01/09/2006 01:29:20 AM · #15 |
Originally posted by Jutilda:
I'm having a really hard time here. So many of the images are just bright and colorful, but there isn't a particular thing that makes the subject pop out at me, as I thought the directive of the challenge said to do. I mean, if the background is really bright and showcases the subject, fine, or if the subject is a stand alone burst, fine, but I am having a dilema with really good images that are just bright and colorful throughout.
Am I the only one? |
I couldn't agree with you more! I posted my comment to this in the scores thread...but I am glad to see someone else agrees with me...I am voting the images that are nothing but colorful low (what's low to me is high for most others) but low all the same...my image is going to place incredibly low because I did what the challenge asked...the ones who are doing that are getting high scores from me! |
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01/09/2006 01:31:10 AM · #16 |
Originally posted by angela_packard:
Originally posted by Jutilda:
I'm having a really hard time here. So many of the images are just bright and colorful, but there isn't a particular thing that makes the subject pop out at me, as I thought the directive of the challenge said to do. I mean, if the background is really bright and showcases the subject, fine, or if the subject is a stand alone burst, fine, but I am having a dilema with really good images that are just bright and colorful throughout.
Am I the only one? |
I couldn't agree with you more! I posted my comment to this in the scores thread...but I am glad to see someone else agrees with me...I am voting the images that are nothing but colorful low (what's low to me is high for most others) but low all the same...my image is going to place incredibly low because I did what the challenge asked...the ones who are doing that are getting high scores from me! |
Then I'll get a 10 from you ha ha ha ha ha ha ha |
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01/09/2006 01:32:21 AM · #17 |
Originally posted by angela_packard:
Originally posted by Jutilda:
I'm having a really hard time here. So many of the images are just bright and colorful, but there isn't a particular thing that makes the subject pop out at me, as I thought the directive of the challenge said to do. I mean, if the background is really bright and showcases the subject, fine, or if the subject is a stand alone burst, fine, but I am having a dilema with really good images that are just bright and colorful throughout.
Am I the only one? |
I couldn't agree with you more! I posted my comment to this in the scores thread...but I am glad to see someone else agrees with me...I am voting the images that are nothing but colorful low (what's low to me is high for most others) but low all the same...my image is going to place incredibly low because I did what the challenge asked...the ones who are doing that are getting high scores from me! |
Angela, you are not going to believe this, but I think we finally agree on something! LOL....
No really. I really think the offset thing should mean "offset the color or subject" and not make it centered. I will have to think this over a bit more. Maybe we can ask whoever wrote the description?
Rose
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01/09/2006 01:34:53 AM · #18 |
Originally posted by Jutilda:
Originally posted by ursula:
As I read it, "offset" in this case means "stand out". |
Me too, Ursula!!! And when the entire image is just bombarding me with color, the subject gets lost in the translation. |
Yes, you're right. Colour by itself is not the assignment, but, as the Dr put it earlier in the thread, the idea is, "Is colour helping me understand the subject?"
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01/09/2006 01:35:06 AM · #19 |
Originally posted by Rose8699:
Angela, you are not going to believe this, but I think we finally agree on something! LOL....
No really. I really think the offset thing should mean "offset the color or subject" and not make it centered. I will have to think this over a bit more. Maybe we can ask whoever wrote the description?
Rose |
HAHAHAH, you right Rose...finally agreeing! |
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01/09/2006 01:35:42 AM · #20 |
Use a colorful impact to offset your subject from the rest of the photograph.
Only one interpretation of offset makes sense here. Your color can't physically move your subject off the center. That definition of "offset" does not make sense.
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01/09/2006 01:36:29 AM · #21 |
Originally posted by angela_packard:
Originally posted by Jutilda:
I'm having a really hard time here. So many of the images are just bright and colorful, but there isn't a particular thing that makes the subject pop out at me, as I thought the directive of the challenge said to do. I mean, if the background is really bright and showcases the subject, fine, or if the subject is a stand alone burst, fine, but I am having a dilema with really good images that are just bright and colorful throughout.
Am I the only one? |
I couldn't agree with you more! I posted my comment to this in the scores thread...but I am glad to see someone else agrees with me...I am voting the images that are nothing but colorful low (what's low to me is high for most others) but low all the same...my image is going to place incredibly low because I did what the challenge asked...the ones who are doing that are getting high scores from me! |
But remember that you could have a picture that is colourful throughout and yet colour would be what makes the subject stand out ....
Message edited by author 2006-01-09 01:43:17. |
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01/09/2006 01:38:15 AM · #22 |
Originally posted by ursula:
As I read it, "offset" in this case means "stand out". |
Ditto! |
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01/09/2006 01:38:36 AM · #23 |
| The word offset, as used in this description has nothing to do with an asymetrical subject. It simply states to use color to offset your subject as in separating or as in standing out from the rest. The description here has nothing to do with placement. |
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01/09/2006 01:38:51 AM · #24 |
Originally posted by angela_packard:
Originally posted by Rose8699:
Angela, you are not going to believe this, but I think we finally agree on something! LOL....
No really. I really think the offset thing should mean "offset the color or subject" and not make it centered. I will have to think this over a bit more. Maybe we can ask whoever wrote the description?
Rose |
HAHAHAH, you right Rose...finally agreeing! |
Pardon me, Angela, but are you also saying that you think the subject can't be centered to meet the challenge? That makes no sense.
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01/09/2006 01:52:32 AM · #25 |
There's certainly a number of interpretations and all may well be correct in some way or another. In our concentration on "offset" we have been ignoring the other keyword "burst" which implies something dramatic and active rather than something sedate, static and in the background.
"Burst" n. from the dictionary
1) A sudden outbreak or outburst; an explosion.
2) The result of bursting,
3) An abrupt, intense increase; a rush:
4) A period of intense activity.
So a fair interpretation of the challenge is
"A burst or explosion of colour which is not in itself the subject of the photo but which draws attention to and enhances the primary subject of the photo"
From everyone's comments here, it seems we are certainly all of the same mind that a beautiful picture of just a colourful object is not the intention of the challenge?
Brett |
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