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01/03/2006 07:14:17 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by gibun:
zxaar, agree, tell me why you give me a 1, but what are you saying with 'what is the name of god1...1...1...1.'? Do I gain any benefit from this or does he by venting on my account? |
If someone would have written me a message that asked what the name of God was, I would have laughed my a!s off. LOL..THEN I would have written them and told them. Simple as that. Believe me, I have gotten some doozies for comments. LOL...Some funny, some sad, some I was proud to receive. BUT I don't hesitate to answer their questions during or after if they are gagged. If they ask a question, I answer them. SO just write them and tell them the answer! LOL....What is really funny is when someone writes me and tells me I used too much of a certain editing tool when I don't even know what the hell it is or what it can do, nor have I obviously used it. That is just as funny to me. But for those I just shake my head and move on.
I have received, oh, I don't know, over 300+ comments I imagine, without looking. Only about 10% of those was I actually grateful to have read. I personally wish there was no comment box at all! LOL...
Rose
Message edited by author 2006-01-03 19:14:51.
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01/03/2006 07:14:19 PM · #27 |
Originally posted by frisca:
Everyone who has made comments has made a "first comment" this one on the blue ribbon winner happened to be this person's first. I don't think its an agenda. I'm surprised you would suggest that was occurring here. I don't approve of ragging on one person for a comment that was less than complimentary. She found the photo to be not an original subject and not as well done as she envisioned. Agree or not, its fair game for her to say so. Sure she could have been nicer, but she wasn't not nice. I think what is not nice is this exercise in bitching about it and her.
It seems the only comments people want to see are the complimentary ones. I think that all comments are useful, even if negative, so long as they are respectful and appropriate. I found this person's comment to be appropriate and generally respectful, if not totally polite and oozing with affection. |
LOL - on another site i frequent, a thread was started a couple of days ago complaining that all the comments were too "nice" and didn't contain enough critique. |
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01/03/2006 07:16:25 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by shamrock69:
Originally posted by frisca:
Everyone who has made comments has made a "first comment" this one on the blue ribbon winner happened to be this person's first. I don't think its an agenda. I'm surprised you would suggest that was occurring here. I don't approve of ragging on one person for a comment that was less than complimentary. She found the photo to be not an original subject and not as well done as she envisioned. Agree or not, its fair game for her to say so. Sure she could have been nicer, but she wasn't not nice. I think what is not nice is this exercise in bitching about it and her.
It seems the only comments people want to see are the complimentary ones. I think that all comments are useful, even if negative, so long as they are respectful and appropriate. I found this person's comment to be appropriate and generally respectful, if not totally polite and oozing with affection. |
LOL - on another site i frequent, a thread was started a couple of days ago complaining that all the comments were too "nice" and didn't contain enough critique. |
hehehe - I'm all for that. Forget stroking my ego tell me what's wrong with it, not "nice job" ;) |
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01/03/2006 07:18:07 PM · #29 |
Brent, your photo IS beautiful, but she was still correct to say that it wasn't original.
I am NOT saying it HAS to be original - i.e. never photographed before - as that is neither easy nor necessary.
However, she is entitled to her opinion even if you don't agree.
Your threads here are a perfect example of what I was addressing in this thread.
Edited grammar.
Message edited by author 2006-01-03 19:18:39. |
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01/03/2006 07:18:18 PM · #30 |
Granted I think the comment is pretty dumb, I've seen much worse.
Just leaving it there for others to see and laugh at would have been a better idea if you ask me. I've got one of "those" comments and I'm rather proud of it. I'd hate to see it deleted!
Edit to add, Great Photo by the way...
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01/03/2006 07:31:46 PM · #31 |
| Brent, you responded to my post in the other thread via PM. I'm a little confused as to why you would do this with me and not the original commentor. This would have been a much more constructive exercise don't you think? |
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01/03/2006 07:45:37 PM · #32 |
The comment in question is not a very good example of constructive criticism and seemed to have a snippy tone to it as if the commenter just wanted to "bring the image down a notch".
I'm not sure I agree with callng the commenter out in the forums, but it's not like the comment is not public and accessible to all. Had Brent simply posted that he thought the comment was out of line/rude or whatever, anyone looking at the post would have just clickity-clicked their way over to his image and immediately known which comment he was referring to and the person behind it. By putting the link to the person in his post, he simply saved us the trouble.
I don't know if a simple, discreet PM to the person would have been a better solution or not, it's too late to find out. It certainly would not have sparked all of this debate.
Message edited by author 2006-01-03 19:46:49.
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01/03/2006 08:02:41 PM · #33 |
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
The comment in question is not a very good example of constructive criticism and seemed to have a snippy tone to it as if the commenter just wanted to "bring the image down a notch".
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I thought this was obvious enough so I didn't mention it. I would of found the comment out of place, un-constructive, and petty no matter who's photo it was under.
I shudder thinking about the backlash the comment would of recieved if it was left on the second place photo.
I'm tired of posting in my defense.
I also state that the web version isn't perfect on the photo description.
Message edited by author 2006-01-03 20:05:31.
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01/03/2006 08:39:32 PM · #34 |
The comment may have been "public" in that it was made on a challenge image visible to anyone who looks, however, you could have responded in the thread on the image itself - even directly to the comment made on the image via 'quote'. Commenting there (image thread) is certainly WAY less public than posting in a general forum.
I think naming the person and calling them out in a forum is not playing nice and is spiteful behavior. Then going on to start a second thread lends me to believe you're not over it yet and feel a need to keep kicking it around.
Let it go. You had a great win with a wonderful image. Don't tarnish that with this kind of action...
Message edited by author 2006-01-03 20:40:25.
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01/03/2006 08:50:17 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by Brent_Ward:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
The comment in question is not a very good example of constructive criticism and seemed to have a snippy tone to it as if the commenter just wanted to "bring the image down a notch".
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I thought this was obvious enough so I didn't mention it. I would of found the comment out of place, un-constructive, and petty no matter who's photo it was under.
I shudder thinking about the backlash the comment would of received if it was left on the second place photo.
I'm tired of posting in my defense.
I also state that the web version isn't perfect on the photo description. |
Whether or not the comment is a good example of constructive criticism or not is not what is at question here, for it is far more constructive than the comments that just said "Beautiful!". What place the photo came in does not matter. You didn't agree with the comment and so actively sought to discredit the poster's opinion in the forums. Some people disagreed with you and that thread was locked.
This thread was then posted asking how you were calling the person out. The way you worded things made it appear you were more interested in the commenter than the comment. If you are posting a thread to say a person is ignorant or ridiculous because you didn't agree with their post - that is calling them out.
As to whether the commenter was calling YOU out in a public forum, in no way did they try to imply your ridiculousness or ignorance as a photographer they simply did not like (and stated why) that 1 photo. They didn't make a thread for open discussion about what they thought of your photo, they just left YOU a comment.
I understand if you do not want to continue this thread, I'm not trying to beat a dead horse but I think it's important that we address all of the concerns brought up here.
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01/03/2006 09:06:25 PM · #36 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
The comment may have been "public" in that it was made on a challenge image visible to anyone who looks, however, you could have responded in the thread on the image itself - even directly to the comment made on the image via 'quote'. Commenting there (image thread) is certainly WAY less public than posting in a general forum.
I think naming the person and calling them out in a forum is not playing nice and is spiteful behavior. Then going on to start a second thread lends me to believe you're not over it yet and feel a need to keep kicking it around.
Let it go. You had a great win with a wonderful image. Don't tarnish that with this kind of action... |
I started the second thread asking a question. Other's brought up the original thread, not I. I just wanted to debate the topic I posted about.
I am very curious how other people know the sex of the poster.
Message edited by author 2006-01-03 21:09:17.
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01/03/2006 09:18:26 PM · #37 |
Originally posted by Brent_Ward:
... I started the second thread asking a question. Other's brought up the original thread, not I. I just wanted to debate the topic I posted about. ... |
You've got to be kidding. You think that a hot thread that ends up locked isn't going to be noted? Then, coincidentally another thread shows up with the same base theme, started by the same person that got the other motor running. Please, give the members here some credit...
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01/03/2006 09:20:38 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by Brent_Ward:
Originally posted by glad2badad:
The comment may have been "public" in that it was made on a challenge image visible to anyone who looks, however, you could have responded in the thread on the image itself - even directly to the comment made on the image via 'quote'. Commenting there (image thread) is certainly WAY less public than posting in a general forum.
I think naming the person and calling them out in a forum is not playing nice and is spiteful behavior. Then going on to start a second thread lends me to believe you're not over it yet and feel a need to keep kicking it around.
Let it go. You had a great win with a wonderful image. Don't tarnish that with this kind of action... |
I started the second thread asking a question. Other's brought up the original thread, not I. I just wanted to debate the topic I posted about.
I am very curious how other people know the sex of the poster. |
You couldn't have just privately pm'ed a SC member or Admin about it?
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01/03/2006 09:21:49 PM · #39 |
Originally posted by Brent_Ward:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
The comment in question is not a very good example of constructive criticism and seemed to have a snippy tone to it as if the commenter just wanted to "bring the image down a notch".
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I thought this was obvious enough so I didn't mention it. I would of found the comment out of place, un-constructive, and petty no matter who's photo it was under.
I shudder thinking about the backlash the comment would of recieved if it was left on the second place photo.
I'm tired of posting in my defense.
I also state that the web version isn't perfect on the photo description. |
I only made that statement because it seems that other posters in this thread don't agree.
I don't think you really have done much that warrants a defense.
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01/03/2006 09:24:23 PM · #40 |
this and the locked thread are dumb im ignoring this. take it like a real artist, some will like it some wont but you cant stop doing what you like nor cry and cry about some one elses opinion.
thats the whole point of this website.. to learn from what others see in your images that you might have missed, or chosen to ignore for love of the image.
ive had some rought comments but after i was done pouting to myself i realized they were right.. if you dont like the comment dont mark it helpful. |
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01/03/2006 09:28:17 PM · #41 |
Brent. When push comes to shove, you had a very nice image which scored as well as it could score on DPChallenge.
You had 89 comments of which you approved. You had one comment which you didn't like.
My suggestion: In the words of Glad2badad -
Let it go. You had a great win with a wonderful image. Don't tarnish that with this kind of action... |
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01/03/2006 09:34:42 PM · #42 |
Welcome to the internet. You have people of all ages that use the internet. Just think of it this way, if some one says somthing you dont like they probobly dont know any better.
There are people that spend hours trolling the internet who get a rise out of pissing others off. If you got pissed they probobly got a kick out of it. |
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01/03/2006 09:39:46 PM · #43 |
Brent, with all due respect I think you just need to give it up, stop trying to defend yourself, and realize your wrong. If you honestly still think that there was nothing wrong with publicly making fun of the commentor...then I'd really be interested in hearing your reasoning. Even if you were offended, it doesn't warrant this type of behavior.
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