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01/03/2006 06:10:08 PM · #1
...in the forum is considered "outing someone"?

It's not that I don't have thick skin, or that people shouldn't comment on my photos, or that I took it personal. I thought the whole comment was unnecessary. Not to mention the commenter's failed attempt of "calling me out" for photographing a much photographed spot by posting a link to google images.

...and it wasn't like I posted a comment that I recieved via a PM, it was a Public comment.

I'm not seeing the big deal.
01/03/2006 06:16:41 PM · #2
Originally posted by Brent_Ward:

I'm not seeing the big deal.

Not a big deal. Great shot!
01/03/2006 06:19:01 PM · #3
I dunno, Someone made a comment, Big deal. Its a great shot no matter how many times you have seen it. I don't really think its a big deal, Move on, keep up the great photos!
01/03/2006 06:20:47 PM · #4
I'll preface this by saying I'm not the one who locked the thread; it was locked before I saw it.

The major issue seems to be that the singling the commentor out by name usually ends up turning into a witch hunt -- not exactly the way we want to welcome a new user (this was her first-ever comment).

If you hadn't singled out the commentor by name or linked to her profile, it probably would have been a different issue, at least in my mind.

~Terry
01/03/2006 06:24:08 PM · #5
What would have made their comment "necessary"?

They posted a valid opinion on a photograph and because you did not agree with them you started a thread on the forums which bashed the user and made them out to be a jealous idiot.

The fact that you have started another thread on the subject (because the other one was locked) suggests this is a big deal to you.

Why do you feel the need to criticize a user in the forums for expressing an opinion that you don't agree with?

In my opinion this creates an unwelcome environment for people and if there is any violation that has occured it would be on your part.
01/03/2006 06:26:00 PM · #6
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:

I'll preface this by saying I'm not the one who locked the thread; it was locked before I saw it.

The major issue seems to be that the singling the commentor out by name usually ends up turning into a witch hunt -- not exactly the way we want to welcome a new user (this was her first-ever comment).

If you hadn't singled out the commentor by name or linked to her profile, it probably would have been a different issue, at least in my mind.

~Terry


Petty, negative, un-constructive comments should be frowned upon. They serve no purpose. I can handle the first two, if the 3rd is with it. ;o)

I figured people would just look at the shot anyway, so I saved them the trouble of clicking a few times to see the posters name. My apologies.
01/03/2006 06:26:08 PM · #7
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:

(this was her first-ever comment).


Why would someone register to make an asinine comment? Kinda stupid unless they have an agenda.

And if it's not a PRIVATE message, I think it's fair game. We all ran off the (highly cheating) girl with the 3.9 voting average and pictures that weren't her own after she ribboned at least once. Maybe we don't want all newbies.
01/03/2006 06:28:00 PM · #8
Originally posted by Megatherian:

What would have made their comment "necessary"?

They posted a valid opinion on a photograph and because you did not agree with them you started a thread on the forums which bashed the user and made them out to be a jealous idiot.

The fact that you have started another thread on the subject (because the other one was locked) suggests this is a big deal to you.

Why do you feel the need to criticize a user in the forums for expressing an opinion that you don't agree with?

In my opinion this creates an unwelcome environment for people and if there is any violation that has occured it would be on your part.


This is more of a "why is it considered calling someone out, if the comment was public to begin with" thread. :D

Message edited by author 2006-01-03 18:28:40.
01/03/2006 06:40:59 PM · #9
It was the persons first comment on the site. You accused a perfectly plausible and polite comment of "slamming your image" when it did not. Then you implied that they didnt know what they were talking about by saying they "crack you up" and made a snide remark concerning thier comment.

You drew attention to the commenter because you did not like thier comment. That is calling someone out.

edit - corrected tense.

Message edited by author 2006-01-03 18:42:13.
01/03/2006 06:41:29 PM · #10
Well since if it has come out to public forum, and since you have every right to post a public comment on forum, i have only one thing to say to you, since your photo was in challenge and since it was there to be commented, she commented the way she pleased. You can always avoid such situtations, just do not participate.

Originally posted by Brent_Ward:

...in the forum is considered "outing someone"?

It's not that I don't have thick skin, or that people shouldn't comment on my photos, or that I took it personal. I thought the whole comment was unnecessary. Not to mention the commenter's failed attempt of "calling me out" for photographing a much photographed spot by posting a link to google images.

...and it wasn't like I posted a comment that I recieved via a PM, it was a Public comment.

I'm not seeing the big deal.
01/03/2006 06:47:01 PM · #11
Originally posted by zxaar:

Well since if it has come out to public forum, and since you have every right to post a public comment on forum, i have only one thing to say to you, since your photo was in challenge and since it was there to be commented, she commented the way she pleased. You can always avoid such situtations, just do not participate.
01/03/2006 06:50:07 PM · #12
Brent must have a piont. Some commentors are really not contributing to the well being of this site either. For example, a comment I got says, and I quote, (copy and paste)

"What is the name of god? 1...1...1..1."

And this is from an older member. Do I have a right to feel offended? For sure. Justice truely is blind.

However, and this is the difference, will I make a real issue out of it, no! I will just take it from who it comes, accept that it comes with the territory and move on.

Just remember, if he has the right to his opinion so do I. If he insults me so can I. But not that I have to. What I do is my choice and depends entirely on my own personality. I do not have to sink to the depths of the other side. It really is my choice. Personally I would rather the other members find the 'idiots' themselves. ;-)
01/03/2006 06:50:09 PM · #13
IF i understand this correctly, it's perfectly acceptable (here on DPC) to make a negative, petty, non-constructive comment. But it's not okay to talk about it.

Just trying to get the rules down so I don't affend anymore people.

You accused a perfectly plausible and polite comment of "slamming your image" when it did not.

I guess we have a different definition of being polite. ;o)
01/03/2006 06:54:36 PM · #14
i feel that those who spent time to make comment are far better than who just give you 1s and go on. If someone spends time with the photo thats shows he/she took interest, and i am grateful for that no matter how he/she voted than. I would rather have such 1 than a split sec galnce 9 or 10. The purpose of art is to find the viewer (and our expression of course).

01/03/2006 06:57:04 PM · #15
"you suck you totally copied that image, and the technical aspect is crappy" would have been impolite.
What was said was a well mannered statement of opinion.
If the comment was against TOS, or you find it offensive, there is a report button for that very thing. Bring it to the forums for attention and drama, is not for that very thing.

BTW being told an image in unoriginal is extrememly constructive - it tells you what you are doing wrong, and offers you a window to do something to improve upon that states problem.
01/03/2006 06:57:35 PM · #16

Originally posted by Brent_Ward:

IF i understand this correctly, it's perfectly acceptable (here on DPC) to make a negative, petty, non-constructive comment. But it's not okay to talk about it.



you are talking about locking that thread, then i also did not like that any of the thread been locked. We are superier because we reason and learn from it. This is very essence of what we are.
01/03/2006 06:57:53 PM · #17
Hey Brent,

Why did you mark the comment helpful?

ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!

;)

M
01/03/2006 06:57:54 PM · #18
zxaar, agree, tell me why you give me a 1, but what are you saying with 'what is the name of god1...1...1...1.'? Do I gain any benefit from this or does he by venting on my account?
01/03/2006 06:58:23 PM · #19
Originally posted by mavrik:

Originally posted by ClubJuggle:

(this was her first-ever comment).


Why would someone register to make an asinine comment? Kinda stupid unless they have an agenda.

And if it's not a PRIVATE message, I think it's fair game. We all ran off the (highly cheating) girl with the 3.9 voting average and pictures that weren't her own after she ribboned at least once. Maybe we don't want all newbies.


Everyone who has made comments has made a "first comment" this one on the blue ribbon winner happened to be this person's first. I don't think its an agenda. I'm surprised you would suggest that was occurring here. I don't approve of ragging on one person for a comment that was less than complimentary. She found the photo to be not an original subject and not as well done as she envisioned. Agree or not, its fair game for her to say so. Sure she could have been nicer, but she wasn't not nice. I think what is not nice is this exercise in bitching about it and her.

It seems the only comments people want to see are the complimentary ones. I think that all comments are useful, even if negative, so long as they are respectful and appropriate. I found this person's comment to be appropriate and generally respectful, if not totally polite and oozing with affection.

Message edited by author 2006-01-03 19:03:00.
01/03/2006 06:59:39 PM · #20
A) there's a reason they locked this.

B) if you didn't find a comment helpful, don't mark it helpful...we all get them.
01/03/2006 07:00:09 PM · #21
Originally posted by Brent_Ward:

IF i understand this correctly, it's perfectly acceptable (here on DPC) to make a negative, petty, non-constructive comment. But it's not okay to talk about it.


Define negative, petty and non-constructive... Some might have taken that comment as an attempt to improve their choice of subjects...

Originally posted by Brent_Ward:

Just trying to get the rules down so I don't affend anymore people.


Seems to me you were the one offended...

Originally posted by Brent_Ward:

You accused a perfectly plausible and polite comment of "slamming your image" when it did not.

I guess we have a different definition of being polite. ;o)


I believe this commentor was making reference to your belief that the OC was 'slamming'.

Message edited by author 2006-01-03 19:01:45.
01/03/2006 07:02:14 PM · #22
Originally posted by Brent_Ward:

IF i understand this correctly, it's perfectly acceptable (here on DPC) to make a negative, petty, non-constructive comment. But it's not okay to talk about it.

Just trying to get the rules down so I don't affend anymore people.

You accused a perfectly plausible and polite comment of "slamming your image" when it did not.

I guess we have a different definition of being polite. ;o)


I guess we have a different definition of constructive too. Though you may have worded the comment differently the comment talked about originality and technicality. It was not a good example of a frivolous comment that had no value or merit if that was the point you were trying to accomplish.

It's ok to make a negative comment here, it's called criticism.

You posted to talk about the POSTER not the COMMENT.

Edited for spelling.

Message edited by author 2006-01-03 19:06:13.
01/03/2006 07:03:21 PM · #23
Originally posted by mavrik:

Hey Brent,

Why did you mark the comment helpful?

ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!

;)

M


I'm nice. :D
01/03/2006 07:04:02 PM · #24
Originally posted by Megatherian:



You posted to talk about the POSTER not the COMMENT.


I did?

Message edited by author 2006-01-03 19:04:15.
01/03/2006 07:12:55 PM · #25
Originally posted by Brent_Ward:

Originally posted by Megatherian:



You posted to talk about the POSTER not the COMMENT.


I did?


the thread title was "Why do people feel the need to slam a photo?" - that's talking about the person. Then the first line of the post was "This is a comment I just received from..." and then you named the person - also saying look at this person.

edited for spelling (I just can't spell tonight)
You have yet to address in either thread in what way the comment was impolite, unconstructive and unnecessary. Instead the majority of what you have said has been about the person who posted it.

Message edited by author 2006-01-03 19:14:28.
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