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07/11/2003 03:22:55 AM · #1 |
Are we going to see picture from circle subjects.
Is a circle subject a round subject.
I think if the subject has a flat side, it is not round subject. Thats just my oppinion.
Of course if the topic was circle and round subject then lets them all. |
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07/11/2003 03:32:02 AM · #2 |
| I still consider circles to be round. |
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07/11/2003 03:45:48 AM · #3 |
my butt is also round....true?
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07/11/2003 03:51:59 AM · #4 |
Of course a circle is round. If the challenge was 'sphere', your argument would be valid.
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07/11/2003 03:55:28 AM · #5 |
sunsets are round (the sun), flowers are round (middle), cars are round (include the tyres)...haha, an OPEN challenge for everyone! ^ ^
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07/11/2003 04:00:48 AM · #6 |
Sunsets,yes.I love sunsets  and sunrises!
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07/11/2003 04:04:40 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by pitsaman:
Sunsets,yes.I love sunsets and sunrises! |
I dont think I can ever get a sunrise photo. I'm on the wrong side of the island, or I'm too tired to wake at 5am! LOL Good job on that one, Pitsaman.
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07/11/2003 08:54:19 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by shadow:
my butt is also round....true? |
No. Your butt may be rounded [!] but not round. Round means circular - (equidistant from a centre point), whereas 'roundness' or 'rounded' means 'of a round nature' and therefore generally curved like a circle. Phew!
I'm a member of 'Pedants'R'Us' by the way! :)
Message edited by author 2003-07-11 08:54:46.
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07/11/2003 01:58:29 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by Jon Lucas:
Originally posted by shadow:
my butt is also round....true? |
No. Your butt may be rounded [!] but not round. Round means circular - (equidistant from a centre point), whereas 'roundness' or 'rounded' means 'of a round nature' and therefore generally curved like a circle. Phew!
I'm a member of 'Pedants'R'Us' by the way! :) |
The DPC people have to be extremely careful with semantics in their Challenge descriptions. There are those that would differentiate between a purist's definition of round and go with the challenge title, whereas others would base their submissions on a more accomodating definition based on the word used in the challenge description (roundness).
But IMO, plus or minus a few degrees of interpretation doesn't make the mona lisa an innacurate representation of a human smile.
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07/11/2003 02:10:17 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by Jon Lucas:
Originally posted by shadow:
my butt is also round....true? |
No. Your butt may be rounded [!] but not round. Round means circular - (equidistant from a centre point), whereas 'roundness' or 'rounded' means 'of a round nature' and therefore generally curved like a circle. Phew!
I'm a member of 'Pedants'R'Us' by the way! :) |
The challenge, though named "Round", states, "Show us roundness ...", so I guess it doesn't have to be circular. |
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07/11/2003 02:20:23 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by uabresch:
No. Your butt may be rounded [!] but not round. Round means circular - (equidistant from a centre point), whereas 'roundness' or 'rounded' means 'of a round nature' and therefore generally curved like a circle. Phew! |
So an ellipse is not round?
Of course bums are round.
I want to see at least 24 submissions of bottoms this week. I promise to vote over 7 for all of them. :P
hj
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07/11/2003 02:26:48 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by Jon Lucas:
Originally posted by shadow:
my butt is also round....true? |
No. Your butt may be rounded [!] but not round. Round means circular - (equidistant from a centre point), whereas 'roundness' or 'rounded' means 'of a round nature' and therefore generally curved like a circle. Phew!
I'm a member of 'Pedants'R'Us' by the way! :) |
WOW I never thought too see you being so creatively strict. WhereĆ¢s the imagination in that? ;-)
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07/11/2003 02:28:20 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by shadow:
my butt is also round....true? |
Unlike Jon Lucas, who evidently has seen your butt and knows it to be *rounded* ; ), I have never seen your butt and therefore cannot say whether it is round or not.
However, I will be looking for anything that has an evident curve to it enough to convince me that possesses *roundness.*
I apologized to Jon Lucas for the above comment, and now to you, too! Inappropriate! Sorry!
Message edited by author 2003-07-15 02:01:56.
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07/11/2003 02:38:35 PM · #14 |
I looked up "round" in the "Websters Unabridged Dictionary". There is a page devoted to the adjective, noun, adverb, and verb "round". There are 18 definitions for round as an adjective.The first few:
1. Shaped like a ball, ...
2. Shaped like a circle. ...
3. Shaped like a cylinder, ...
4. Curved in shape like part of a sphere
5. Not angular, plump,...
... You get the idea - it's not purely mathematical.
Now, in the description of the challenge, we are to "Show us roundness, however you want to express it."
Roundness is defined as
1. The state or quality of being round, rotundity.
2. fullness
The best I can tell, the only thing that does not meet the challenge is a subject with nothing but angles. And I suspect an arrangement of angular subjects could be made round.
Looks wide open to me. Bring on the plump bums.
Dennis
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07/11/2003 03:04:34 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by dsidwell:
Unlike Jon Lucas, who evidently has seen your butt and knows it to be *rounded* ; ), I have never seen your butt and therefore cannot say whether it is round or not. |
I did say "may be round"! And I have definitely not seen the butt in question. :-o
Originally posted by Diversq:
WOW I never thought too see you being so creatively strict. Where's the imagination in that? |
And who mentioned anything about being prescriptive about the challenge def.? Not me. It's fascinating to see how many people read stuff like that into a flippant, lighthearted comment about the definition of round though! Personally I think this thread is going to go round in circles. ;)
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07/11/2003 03:19:59 PM · #16 |
There's even the musical definition of "round", which involves two or more groups of people singing different sections of the same song at the same time. Thus, if I photograph a choir divided into two sections, one which appears to be singing a certain word (their mouths being in an "O", for instance), and another which is appearing to sing another word, I could be edging into the challenge, and you could miss the fact entirely. Like someone mentioned, there are 18 definitions, and they are not all mathematical. :-) (I know, my theoretical pic doesn't show "roundness", but catch my point...)
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07/11/2003 05:13:49 PM · #17 |
nards -- you are supposed to be working, not "arguing" on the forums. And you make fun of me.
hahahahahahah
what about a round of golf, anyone?
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07/11/2003 05:15:10 PM · #18 |
how many "rounds" will there be in this debate ? ;)
Message edited by author 2003-07-11 17:40:25.
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07/11/2003 05:19:29 PM · #19 |
| i'm just hanging around to see what happens next. |
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07/11/2003 05:19:35 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by nards656:
There's even the musical definition of "round", which involves two or more groups of people singing different sections of the same song at the same time. Thus, if I photograph a choir divided into two sections, one which appears to be singing a certain word (their mouths being in an "O", for instance), and another which is appearing to sing another word, I could be edging into the challenge, and you could miss the fact entirely... |
I was trying to think of a way of depicting that meaning! I promise I'll go with a different idea now though .... |
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07/14/2003 05:45:52 PM · #21 |
roundness
\Round"ness\, n. 1. The quality or state of being round in shape; as, the roundness of the globe, of the orb of the sun, of a ball, of a bowl, a column, etc.
2. Fullness; smoothness of flow; as, the roundness of a period; the roundness of a note; roundness of tone.
3. Openess; plainess; boldness; positiveness; as, the roundness of an assertion.
Syn: Circularity; sphericity; globosity; globularity; globularness; orbicularness; cylindricity; fullness; plumpness; rotundity.
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07/14/2003 05:49:00 PM · #22 |
After this discussion I think we might all need to go for a ROUND of alcohol
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07/14/2003 05:50:24 PM · #23 |
yeah for real...wait, you're too young. ;)
M
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07/14/2003 06:25:19 PM · #24 |
I'll be looking for things that are truely round and not partially round. Curved staircase? Not round. Profile of a "new" VW Beetle? Not round. Those things are curved. Tire? That's round...
Just my opinion, since the challenge says "Round", not "Curved". And if I surveyed 100 people on the street and asked "is a new VW Beetle" round?" or "is that spiral staircase round?" most people would say no. Yes, the dictionary may have some defintion of 'round' that would fit for a curved image, I don't feel those things are within the spirit of what "round" is to the average person. |
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07/14/2003 06:30:42 PM · #25 |
Originally posted by EddyG:
I'll be looking for things that are truely round and not partially round. Curved staircase? Not round. Profile of a "new" VW Beetle? Not round. Those things are curved. Tire? That's round...
Just my opinion, since the challenge says "Round", not "Curved". And if I surveyed 100 people on the street and asked "is a new VW Beetle" round?" or "is that spiral staircase round?" most people would say no. Yes, the dictionary may have some defintion of 'round' that would fit for a curved image, I don't feel those things are within the spirit of what "round" is to the average person. |
For so long we've noticed people getting so strict about the exact definition of the challenge word. Now you've gotten so out of control that even the exact dictionary definition isn't good enough! I guess a photographer has to be a mind reader to get a good vote from you, huh? The challenge is "Show roundness", not even just "round." A VW bug definitely exhibits roundness, by the definition.
I guess I'll start surveying people on the street now to find out what will be acceptable to some of the out-of-control voters.
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