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12/29/2005 01:33:39 PM · #1 |
Hi,
I just bought my first digital slr (canon 20d) and I am looking for some advice on good lenses to buy that aren't overly expensive.. I just have the kit lense now and would like to buy a wide angeled next. Any advice?
Message edited by author 2005-12-29 13:34:13. |
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12/29/2005 01:41:25 PM · #2 |
Your choices: (prices are from memory and approximate)
canon 10-22 ($800) Excellent, costly
sigma 10-20 (400) very good
sigma 12-24 ($700) ery good, the only one of these that is full fram sensor compatible
tamron 11-18 ($700) SP glass, very good, not as long (only 18) slow 4-5.6
Tokina 12-24 ($480) Pro line, excellent glass, best value.
Then sell you kit lens and get a Tamron SP 24-135 or Tarmon SP 28-75 2.8. Once you see how good any of those wide angles are, you will quickly become hateful of your kit lens.
This month's shutterbug tests 3 of those and kind of favors the Tokina overall.
Message edited by author 2005-12-29 13:42:21.
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12/29/2005 01:53:47 PM · #3 |
canon 50 mm 1.8 0r 1.4 very good lenses the 1.8 is about $100. and the 1.4 is about $300.
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12/29/2005 01:58:19 PM · #4 |
Just curious, but wouldn't that be a fixed length (prime) lens? If so, I'm thinking at 50mm this wouldn't qualify as a 'Wide Angle'.
Originally posted by TLL061: canon 50 mm 1.8 0r 1.4 very good lenses the 1.8 is about $100. and the 1.4 is about $300. |
Message edited by author 2005-12-29 13:59:00.
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12/29/2005 03:35:43 PM · #5 |
and the baby most Canon owners like to have, and one of the cheapest L lenses.. the
Canon 17-40 L f4 //dpchallenge.com/lens.php?LENS_ID=4 232 owners on DPC enough said :)
the canon EFS-10-22 //dpchallenge.com/lens.php?LENS_ID=6 102 owners on DPC
the sigma 10-20 //dpchallenge.com/lens.php?LENS_ID=1193 19 owners on DPC
the sigma 12-24 //dpchallenge.com/lens.php?LENS_ID=1123 21 owner on DPC
the tamron 11-18 //dpchallenge.com/lens.php?LENS_ID=1258 0 owners on DPC
the Tokina 12-24 //dpchallenge.com/lens.php?LENS_ID=1121 38 owners on DPC
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12/29/2005 04:03:08 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by TLL061: canon 50 mm 1.8 0r 1.4 very good lenses the 1.8 is about $100. and the 1.4 is about $300. |
She's asking for a wide angle...50mm on a 1.6x crop camera does not really equate to a wide angle...more like a short telephoto at 80mm...
What's your budget? |
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12/29/2005 05:18:54 PM · #7 |
Tokina 12-24mm f/4 is pretty nice though I would also keep my 50mm f/1.8 as it was so cheap.
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12/30/2005 12:28:23 AM · #8 |
Thank all of you guys so much! |
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12/30/2005 01:31:19 AM · #9 |
Best bang for the bucks: Sigma 10-20
Best Optics: Canon 10-22
good luck.
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12/30/2005 03:32:16 AM · #10 |
Originally posted by yido: Best bang for the bucks: Sigma 10-20
Best Optics: Canon 10-22
good luck. |
how can you say that the Canon 10-22 has the best optics ?
there is always the 17-40 L f4, 16-35 L f2.8, 14mm L f2.8
and I think all of them has much better optics than the 10-22... otherwise the 10-22 would be an L lens ;)
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12/30/2005 04:18:14 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by DanSig: Originally posted by yido: Best bang for the bucks: Sigma 10-20
Best Optics: Canon 10-22
good luck. |
how can you say that the Canon 10-22 has the best optics ?
there is always the 17-40 L f4, 16-35 L f2.8, 14mm L f2.8
and I think all of them has much better optics than the 10-22... otherwise the 10-22 would be an L lens ;) |
Actually, according to most sources the 10-22mm Canon IS optically as good as L glass; the reason it's not designated "L" has to do with some other aspect of the lens that doesn't conform to "L" parameters. I think, but am not sure, that it has to do with unwillingness to designate EF-S lenses as part of the "L" line.
Anyhow, the lenses you are holding up as comparisons are not as wide. Sure, if you're using the 5D then the 17mm is as wide as the 10mm on a 1.6 crop, which is what it was designed for and all it works on. Basically, what's being discussed here is true extreme WA on a cropped sensor, which 17mm is not. It's roughly the equivalent of a 28mm on a FF camera, and that's not very wide if you're into WA work.
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12/30/2005 12:14:13 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by DanSig: Originally posted by yido: Best bang for the bucks: Sigma 10-20
Best Optics: Canon 10-22
good luck. |
how can you say that the Canon 10-22 has the best optics ?
there is always the 17-40 L f4, 16-35 L f2.8, 14mm L f2.8
and I think all of them has much better optics than the 10-22... otherwise the 10-22 would be an L lens ;) |
The poster is asking about ultrawides for a 20D. With the crop factor the 17-40 and 16-35 become more equivalent to a 24-50ish zoom. A 10-22 becomes similar to a 16-35mm zoom. You are right, I think all of those L lenses are excellent. The 16-35mm L f2.8 makes me drool but I put the ultrawides and the wide zooms are different categories. That's all.
Message edited by author 2005-12-30 12:15:56.
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