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12/22/2005 01:21:46 PM · #26 |
| How bizarre. I've pointed this out to the admins so they can take a look at it and see what the problem is. |
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12/22/2005 01:49:21 PM · #27 |
| Make sure _eug gets to keep the Phobia picture in play!! Nice score! |
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12/22/2005 01:54:28 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by macpapas:
Make sure _eug gets to keep the Phobia picture in play!! Nice score! |
It's a tough situation, if it comes to that. Do I go for the one that people like or the one that -- if it had comments -- I would be able to learn from?
(How's that for trying to bring this thread back on topic and trying to prevent killing my first thread.) |
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12/22/2005 01:56:00 PM · #29 |
| I wouldn't worry about it - I'm sure you will be able to stay in both challenges. It wasn't your fault that there was a site glitch. |
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12/22/2005 03:07:08 PM · #30 |
I occasionally have questions about what people thought during voting beyond the score and posted comments, but rarely post the "What was wrong with this?" I try to be honest with myself and look through the ranked list and can readily admit why some people thought that one was better than mine, etc. You will always find a few entries above and below yours that you think should have been the other way around, but usually that's because the placement is separated by tenths or hundredths of a point.
My best advice is to take what you can from where you placed (study the ones above yours), consider all comments - especially the negative ones and be objective and realistic - look at your photo through another voters eyes and admit that it sucks. ;-)
I have found lately with regards to the whole DNMC issue that I am less and less inclined to leave any comments with my DNMC-related low score because of all the whining about it in the forums. This to me is a bad thing - anything that discourages comments is not good. If a voter thinks it does not meet the challenge even if it literally depicts the challenge title or whatever - they are entitled to their interpretation of the challenge and even if they misunderstood or were blatently wrong, it is not worth calling them out for it and risk discouraging people from making honest comments. Smile and blow it off.
To summarize, I'm always happy if I beat at least one person who I know is better than me. ;-)
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12/22/2005 03:26:03 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by Alienyst:
After a challenge when you score lower than you felt you should, especially when you see shots scored higher that you thought did not deserve it, how do you feel? What is your emotion? Is it a burning desire to do better next time? Is it a cop out like 'they are all stupid and don't know how to vote'? Do you want to learn or are you discouraged? Do you get depressed/angry over it
Do you try and learn from it or chalk it up to your own failure/inadequate abilities?
Are you angry or are you motivated?
Are you upset and feel like you shouldn't be here?
Do you take it with a grain of salt, shrug it off and 'oh well, another challenge is coming up so no big deal?'
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Some of each, depending on my own particular level of self-loathing at the time.
When I've submitted a poor, last minute entry, I also feel remorse at being so stupid (and, often, slightly drunk). Other times, I can see that there are shots that are better in my opinion and deserved to place higher. I've had fun shooting and processing all of my challenge entries, so I count that as a positive.
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12/22/2005 04:07:41 PM · #32 |
When I enter a challenge, my goal is always to try and do better than the last entry that I made (wasn't too hard after I got that brown!..lol). The thing I find frustrating is not getting very many comments once your shots end up in the 5 - 5.6 range.
The scores tell me that I need improvement but the lack of comments leave me wondering how to improve. I can only take the comments that I get and work from there by looking at the winners and trying to compare the differences.
The number of forums complaining about trolls and bad comments makes me not want to leave comments. I know that part of the learning process is helped by examining shots made by others and thinking why they don't appeal to you and what you would change. Looking back at the first comments I made, they sound pretty lame but I think my comments are improving over time as well. Like the old saying... practice, practice, practice...
As a hobbyist who just wants to take better pictures and not an aspiring to be or already a professional photographer, I don't tend to take the score results to heart. Same goes for reading the comments and attitudes of some members in the forums. You need to take it all with a grain of salt, everyone has an opinion and you won't always agree with it. Get over it!
And for the other side...
I find it rather amusing how many times over and over that people complain about interpretation of a challenge. Some people need to realize that photography is art and not everyone sees art the same way. If a challenge said take a picture of a red apple on a black background, you would still get a myriad of interpretations and no two shots exactly the same. If everyone viewed everything exactly the same way, life would sure get boring, don't you think! |
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12/22/2005 11:45:06 PM · #33 |
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12/23/2005 12:36:57 AM · #34 |
Originally posted by idnic:
So? What was the result? |
Ummm... Which result? |
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12/23/2005 02:16:13 PM · #35 |
| Ah well... I just got the PM from mk and it seems that I must decide which to keep. I decided to keep my Phobia due to lack of feeback in DOF II. I'll compare the 4.2 it's at now to the results on Tuesday to see where to improve it. |
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12/31/2005 08:52:12 PM · #36 |
People were very negative about my San Diego night skyline photo, and all its empty space. Yet I loved it! It's on my desktop, and will soon be on my wall. I bought a 20x30 print from DPC, and it looks awesome! I'll order a frame tomorrow.
On the other hand, I did crop the photo a little as I agreed there was a lot of empty space. |
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12/31/2005 10:05:00 PM · #37 |
I am fine with people ranting and crying - nobody is forcing me to read it.
As for myself - the first day of voting I fume at my low score, then I resign myself to it.
However, there ARE things that bug me. Right now, my username isn't doing very well. I would love to know if that is due to the fact that:
A) people don't like my photo
B) they don't know what the word means (look up a dictionary if you're not sure, dang it!) or
C) because it really only looks good on a well calibrated monitor.
I assume it's a bit of all three.
Serves me right, I guess. If I want a high score, I should enter photos that everybody understands and that are VERY bright and shiny so they look good on any monitor. |
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12/31/2005 10:26:50 PM · #38 |
I have no problem with how people see my photos as most are very kind or sincerly trying to help. If it doesn't do well, I work on improving it. I am learning so much here it is a win/win situation for me all the time.
I guess my biggest complaint would be the one or two people who continually accuse people of copying someone elses idea. I thought that was part of the process. Learning by trying to emulate a great photo. They just don't seem to understand that just about all the completely original ideas have been taken. If there is no copying then all the landscapes, portraits, water drops etc, has to stop. LOL
In most cases, I do believe that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
I look more for the day when someone copies one of my ideas then the day I may win a ribbon.
Thanks for the spance to air this out.
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12/31/2005 10:40:13 PM · #39 |
i whine and sulk to my friends in private...then i get over myself.
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01/02/2006 08:45:41 PM · #40 |
| these are some great ideas |
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01/04/2006 12:28:41 AM · #41 |
I normally don't get pissed with my own photos being low, although I usually wish it would break a 5.5. To me, it's the viewers point of view. To me, it may be the best, but there are always better out there. If my score is not so great, I normally like comments that say what's wrong with it or what mood does the viewer get from the shot.
My perspective is not the same as everyone elses so I can accept the score as it is. There are times I do say, that picture doesn't deserve it, but I shrug it off and say the journey through was never laid with a red carpet from the beginning.
You can't satisfy everyone. If I can satisfy myself, then hey it's good enough for me. |
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01/04/2006 12:34:31 AM · #42 |
I binge for a day.
Then I clean my lens, like a sniper cleans his weapon.
I think about what I am going to shoot. I shoot. I edit. I upload. I get low scores.
Then it all starts over again.
I binge for a day........
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