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 12/16/2005 04:14:29 PM · #101
Man oh man.. santa isn't gunna bring you any christmas prezzies

Originally posted by Strikeslip:
Originally posted by di53:
But you started this thread out saying you wanted to know how much they made... and i'm nto sure why all fo a sudden you changed what you're saying in it ?

If I knew what D&L made or lost, then I'd know whether or not to send D&L some money for a Christmukah turkey and that SC members -are in the right- referring to us as a charity cases and telling us to just be thankful for D&L's kindness.
12/16/2005 04:18:22 PM · #102
Originally posted by di53:
Man oh man.. santa isn't gunna bring you any christmas prezzies

I'm tacky & impolite... am I bad now too?
12/16/2005 04:19:13 PM · #103
I don't know if you're tacky, impolite or bad, but you are channeling deepea right now. :) Channel slippy.
 12/16/2005 04:21:28 PM · #104
What this thread is doing is to demean membership. Why not advertise like this: Join DPC for 25.00. Here is what you get: a list of benefits. But under no circumstance think that the paltry 25.00 is going to give you the right to anything else. As a matter of fact according to muckpod you are getting too much and this comes as a gift and why you complaint and groan is beyond my understanding.

Now, there is another possibility here why the S/C may choose to cry a finacial woe: It is a preliminary set up for a rate increase. I do not see what the S/C has to do with the finacial affairs. Tell me what you want and treat me like a member and i will be happy, but do not tell me that I am at the mercy of the larges of your hearts.
 12/16/2005 04:21:58 PM · #105
I believe what was said was that the Rant forum is not a RIGHT. It's there because D&L decided it would be nice to have which is nice for the rest of us because we (mostly) like it. They could also decide to remove it if they wanted because that is their RIGHT. Even if you paid your $25, that doesn't mean you're guaranteed the rant forum. It is, in fact, not a right. So we appreciate the fact that it's there...a nice perk. You decided to spin that into a charity case rant somehow.

As for what you choose to believe, that's entirely up to you. I certainly don't believe everything that's posted in this forum. In the end, I'm not really sure what difference it makes how much money the site makes. D&L could sleep on piles of cash and wipe their asses with $50 bills and that still wouldn't make the Rant forum a user right.
 12/16/2005 04:25:59 PM · #106
This is a private company , And there profit is non of our concern ,if one of the servers breaks do they ask for donations to repair them , how about the power they use , I hope they are doing very well , they stuck there necks out
 12/16/2005 04:36:38 PM · #107
You better go sit in the corner!

Originally posted by Strikeslip:
Originally posted by di53:
Man oh man.. santa isn't gunna bring you any christmas prezzies

I'm tacky & impolite... am I bad now too?
12/16/2005 04:37:31 PM · #108
Santa isn't gunna bring you prezzies either...

Originally posted by graphicfunk:
What this thread is doing is to demean membership. Why not advertise like this: Join DPC for 25.00. Here is what you get: a list of benefits. But under no circumstance think that the paltry 25.00 is going to give you the right to anything else. As a matter of fact according to muckpod you are getting too much and this comes as a gift and why you complaint and groan is beyond my understanding.

Now, there is another possibility here why the S/C may choose to cry a finacial woe: It is a preliminary set up for a rate increase. I do not see what the S/C has to do with the finacial affairs. Tell me what you want and treat me like a member and i will be happy, but do not tell me that I am at the mercy of the larges of your hearts.
12/16/2005 04:37:49 PM · #109
Originally posted by mk:
I believe what was said was that the Rant forum is not a RIGHT. It's there because D&L decided it would be nice to have which is nice for the rest of us because we (mostly) like it. They could also decide to remove it if they wanted because that is their RIGHT. Even if you paid your $25, that doesn't mean you're guaranteed the rant forum. It is, in fact, not a right. So we appreciate the fact that it's there...a nice perk. You decided to spin that into a charity case rant somehow.

As for what you choose to believe, that's entirely up to you. I certainly don't believe everything that's posted in this forum. In the end, I'm not really sure what difference it makes how much money the site makes. D&L could sleep on piles of cash and wipe their asses with $50 bills and that still wouldn't make the Rant forum a user right.


The quote below is from this thread (I also took this as a threat that I could be banned):

Originally posted by muckpond:
when the sc refers to the amount of money this site costs (which it does, no matter what you may think) or the amount of time and effort put into it (which it does, no matter what you may think), it's to get people to keep this site in perspective. a LOT of people have lost their perspective around here and think that participating in dpc is some kind of right granted to them that cannot be revoked.

it's not.

it's a favor done for you by d&l. the paid memberships were to provide enhanced benefits for everyone, but with some special perks to encourage you to pay.
 12/16/2005 04:40:04 PM · #110
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
(I also took this as a threat that I could be banned):


Now I think THAT is a tale.
 12/16/2005 04:42:11 PM · #111
Originally posted by mk:
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
(I also took this as a threat that I could be banned):


Now I think THAT is a tale.

No tale, seems like a not-so-thinly veiled threat to me. :-(
 12/16/2005 04:44:30 PM · #112
I come from a different background. I do not accept what I am not entitled to. This sounds like so and so brought their car. you can take it for a spin but you have no right to have it when you want it.

I never question the axiom that he that gives takes away. I am not looking for gifts nor do I want them. It would be nice if the so called gifts be removed altogether. In one breath one of you say that this is a business and in the other you say it is act of charity.

To conclude, people that enter the Rant forum are recipients of a gift which they have no right to. Read this over again and see if something is wrong.

I have never showed interest in the financial affairs of this company and I posted this position earlier. It is none of my business.
 12/16/2005 04:54:50 PM · #113
Originally posted by graphicfunk:
I come from a different background. I do not accept what I am not entitled to. This sounds like so and so brought their car. you can take it for a spin but you have no right to have it when you want it.

I never question the axiom that he that gives takes away. I am not looking for gifts nor do I want them. It would be nice if the so called gifts be removed altogether. In one breath one of you say that this is a business and in the other you say it is act of charity.

To conclude, people that enter the Rant forum are recipients of a gift which they have no right to. Read this over again and see if something is wrong.

I have never showed interest in the financial affairs of this company and I posted this position earlier. It is none of my business.

I feel the same way. As for the financial affairs, asking for them was a means to an end, hoping SC members would stop using the charity argument as a crutch to quiet people down.
 12/16/2005 04:58:17 PM · #114
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
I feel the same way. As for the financial affairs, asking for them was a means to an end, hoping SC members would stop using the charity argument as a crutch to quiet people down.


I tried death threats and got in trouble for that, too. I just can't win. :(
 12/16/2005 04:59:11 PM · #115
ok guys lets think about it this way..........we can't share music because of money...

are we now going to take away our art because of money... that is how the RIAA was started. to exploit the artists and the fans. that can just as easily happen to visual art as well. all it takes is one moron pushing for numbers.

so here are some numbers for you
i paid 5 dollars
last year i made 12 thousand dollars
i am a single mom
on welfare
and i don't ask for someonelses P&L
grow up and take pictures
 12/16/2005 05:04:17 PM · #116
Originally posted by mavrik:
This is the "business of DPC post" right? Those are costs - nobody is saying "don't be on this site unless you pay" we are saying "there's a lot of people who don't pay that need to be factored into this discussion.


I agree registered only users (no blue shirt right now:) are a drag on the bandwidth e.t.c. The question is what is the added value of the conversations, photos e.t.c. compared to if they were no here. Some will convert to members but some are just driving volume which in turn helps the paying members. As somebody said (in different words), a loss leader is sometimes a useful business tatic.
 12/16/2005 05:14:14 PM · #117
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
I feel the same way. As for the financial affairs, asking for them was a means to an end, hoping SC members would stop using the charity argument as a crutch to quiet people down.

So far, no one has estimated the gross income for this site at much over $65,000.

Regardless of operating costs, a company with that amount of income is not going to make any of Fortune's lists even if it were miraculously 100% profit ...

Since it's pretty obvious that there must be some operating expenses, I don't see anything wrong with pointing out that certain suggestions carry possibly sigificant financial consequences for the site owners.

And I don't know about mk and karmat, but I'd feel lucky to get 24 carrots out of this deal ...
 12/16/2005 05:31:53 PM · #118
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
hoping SC members would stop using the charity argument as a crutch to quiet people down.


what charity argument? i've never made a charity argument, and i don't see anyone who has.

i've simply stated (repeatedly) that this site is a privately-run enterprise and can be shut down at any time. it's also nice that the admins give people so many chances before booting them or banning them when they would be wholly within their rights to just boot 'em whenever they feel like it.

note too that i said the "admins" and not the sc, 'cause we're not the booters.

according to you guys we're just the bootees. har har har.

Message edited by author 2005-12-16 17:36:19.
 12/16/2005 05:46:34 PM · #119
Lots of (one might almost believe) deliberate misunderstandings of the sense of people's opinions here, and they all come from the differing weight folks place on certain words.

Might I suggest we think of it as a club, rather than a business? The same financial constraints apply, only the implication of the word 'business' for some is of a necessity of making profit. Some other people have taken the words of those who say it's a business to mean that it is a rampaging capitalist blood-sucker.

Personally, I like it. D&L I suspect put a lot more work into it than any reward they get - but I don't know. The council do a decent job of keeping it on the rails - though I can understand the objections when they (sometimes) seem heavy-handed.

However, whilst it is true that D&L can bin the site whenever they want - which actually wouldn't work, as I think it has enough impetus now to be re-established by someone else almost immediately - the main 'value added' -to speak in business terms, or 'point' to the rest of us, is all of our images. It is those that bring people to the place, it is the friendliness and openness that maintain it, and the nice balance of the voting process. Without all of our pictures, this site is nothing.

I do think the original post was simple curiosity as to the financial statre of this place, that's all. Some folks seem, even in this time, to get all strange about money though.

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 12/16/2005 05:46:56 PM · #120
what about if your not a member you have to pay a fee to enter any challenge?
if i can afford to be a member then a non member can afford to pay a fee, that would help with costs.
 12/16/2005 05:49:31 PM · #121
Originally posted by o2bskating:
what about if your not a member you have to pay a fee to enter any challenge?
if i can afford to be a member then a non member can afford to pay a fee, that would help with costs.


Where do you get that logic exactly?

And do the SC really get paid? I always assumed they were just mods... I seem to have missed something huge.
 12/16/2005 05:49:44 PM · #122
Originally posted by e301:
I do think the original post was simple curiosity as to the financial statre of this place, that's all.

I think it clearly (and explicitly) was not. It was specifically an attempt to undermine and contravene statements made by some SC members; to gather "evidence" for saying "you can't say that."
 12/16/2005 05:52:03 PM · #123
Originally posted by Rankles:
And do the SC really get paid? I always assumed they were just mods...

No, those were jokes. We do have our membership fee waived, so you could say we were "paid" $25/year, but then we'd be in violation of several labor laws.
 12/16/2005 05:53:19 PM · #124
1) You are paying for a service. The provider of the service can (within contractual obligations, of course) refuse to provide you with that service at their discretion, just as you, as a consumer are free to take your business elsewhere.
2) Un-moderated forums are a legal liability as well as a financial liability.
4) Seeing as the site council VOLUNTEER their valuable time to help make this site run, I think they're entitled to a bit of leeway.
5) How much money the site makes/does not make has no issue in an argument about the Rant forum being moderated. See point #1 for further reference.
 12/16/2005 05:56:27 PM · #125
I find that a very peculiar reading of Strikeslip's words. Explicitly, he enquired about the DPC balance sheet, quoting statements from another thread where I had bemoaned the use of the business paradigm in relation to DPC, and where Terry had made a point about how lucky we all are that 'your' (his word was 'we')business interests happened to co-incide with our interests as a community.

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