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12/14/2005 10:17:10 PM · #151

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

Who's got the bottomless wallet that's going to pay for everyone's hardware upgrade that a few people keep insisting on?

Maybe people need to realize that you have to drop a few dollars on PC/MAC hardware as well as all those lenses everyone keeps raving "ooh, i just got a..." You need a monitor as well as a lens.

Like I said, i figured people who love digital photography would be more concerned about actually having equipment to edit those pictures on. I am wrong, as I usually end up being on this site. Is okay.

Message edited by author 2005-12-14 22:17:27.

DjFenzl

12/14/2005 10:18:26 PM · #152

I think everyone should get dual 19" flat screens like me. I have no problems finding space for tool bars :D

12/14/2005 10:19:09 PM · #153

Originally posted by Brent_Ward:

Anybody who is using a laptop to serious photo editing is crazy. I just bought a used 19" lacie for $250. That's for a high end CRT, imagine what kind of deals are out there so people can connect their laptops to a decent sceen.

Glad you mentioned that, I was afriad of more flames. You could prolly get a good/decent 19 inch for cheaper than that used on e-bay...

12/14/2005 10:20:10 PM · #154

Originally posted by megatherian:

I think everyone should get dual 19" flat screens like me. I have no problems finding space for tool bars :D

I wish dude, it then becomes a desk space elitism issue for me. You obviously have more than I do.

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

12/14/2005 10:20:54 PM · #155

Originally posted by wavelength:

Like I said, i figured people who love digital photography would be more concerned about actually having equipment to edit those pictures on. I am wrong, as I usually end up being on this site. Is okay.

My thoughts exactly about investing on better hardware to edit/view the digital photos. Its almost like printing photos on normal paper.

ClubJuggle

Canon EOS-400D Rebel XTi

12/14/2005 10:21:27 PM · #156

Originally posted by wavelength:

Originally posted by ClubJuggle:

Any suggestions on replacing the screen for this computer?

I'm currently on a Toshiba Satellite notebook.

~Terry

Get an external monitor and a real keyboard and mouse?

Honestly, I can't understand how you guys edit photos with such small resolutions at hand, I can barely fit a pic a with all the Photoshop toolbars in with 1152x864, I usually up the res to 1280 when my wife isn't looking :O)

I do edit on my desktop computer (at 1600x1200), but that's not my normal computer for web browsing. I enjoy the portability of the notebook computer and use that for most of my surfing, including DPC. That said, our concern is how people are browsing the site and most reliable statistics show that a majority of web users are running at 1024x768. One would expect a bias toward higher resolution on a photography site, but that bias is a few percentage points and not orders of magnitude. It's simply not realistic for us to expect users to change their resolution settings just for DPC, much less to replace their hardware for that purpose. If we're incredibly lucky, maybe 5% of the users would do that. The other 95% would walk.

~Terry

mesmeraj

12/14/2005 10:21:28 PM · #157

hey Steve - since youre aware of my situation, you know what i can and can't afford, who will fix the hardware problems for me? I don't have any dollars to drop :p

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

12/14/2005 10:21:42 PM · #158

This reminds of the old photography discussions trying to convince people that there $20 tripod they used with there $1000 lens was worthless and not allowing them to produce the quality the lens was capable of.

ClubJuggle

Canon EOS-400D Rebel XTi

12/14/2005 10:23:28 PM · #159

Originally posted by Brent_Ward:

That kinda kills the portability factor, and thus the point of the laptop, don't you think?

~Terry

Canon EF 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 DO IS USM

12/14/2005 10:23:40 PM · #160

Originally posted by Brent_Ward:

This sounds interesting. Kind enough to explain a little bit more? Thanks

cpanaioti

Canon EOS-40D

12/14/2005 10:23:58 PM · #161

Originally posted by wavelength:

Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Who's got the bottomless wallet that's going to pay for everyone's hardware upgrade that a few people keep insisting on?

Maybe people need to realize that you have to drop a few dollars on PC/MAC hardware as well as all those lenses everyone keeps raving "ooh, i just got a..." You need a monitor as well as a lens.

Like I said, i figured people who love digital photography would be more concerned about actually having equipment to edit those pictures on. I am wrong, as I usually end up being on this site. Is okay.

BTW, I'm running at 1600 x 1200 on a 19" monitor. Now it's not a pro version so it's probably not up to snuff.

This site belongs to everyone not just those who can afford everything at once.

ClubJuggle

Canon EOS-400D Rebel XTi

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

12/14/2005 10:24:17 PM · #162

Originally posted by megatherian:

I think everyone should get dual 19" flat screens like me. I have no problems finding space for tool bars :D

Sure thing! Just PM me your credit card number and I'll order them right now!

~Terry

12/14/2005 10:24:27 PM · #163

Originally posted by mesmeraj:

hey Steve - since youre aware of my situation, you know what i can and can't afford, who will fix the hardware problems for me? I don't have any dollars to drop :p

That wasn't fair Elli.

Okay, I am sufficiently humbled and ashamed. Sorry.

12/14/2005 10:26:26 PM · #164

Originally posted by ClubJuggle:

Originally posted by Brent_Ward:
Anybody who is using a laptop to serious photo editing is crazy. I just bought a used 19" lacie for $250. That's for a high end CRT, imagine what kind of deals are out there so people can connect their laptops to a decent sceen.

That kinda kills the portability factor, and thus the point of the laptop, don't you think?

~Terry

Docking station for serious work? Laptops are not for editing contrast / brightness on photos.

jab119

12/14/2005 10:27:16 PM · #165

Originally posted by wavelength:

Your point is valid about the "generostiy" issue, but like I said, at some point the bubble will break, and you'll have people leaving because the site can no longer change. It's not about denigrating those that have less or whatever, sorry you feel that way. It's about progress.

don't forget about the people who will leave because of a change.

increased image size will turn into wanting an increase in file size. This will result in higher membership cost to cover the additional cost for the growing bandwidth demands. You will see people slowly departing DPC because they can justify the cost to renew their membership. I for one can not justify anything more than $25 a year for this site. I can certainly afford, just cant justify the expense.

I aint clicking on google ads to generate revenue so people can have 800xwhat ever image sizes either

maybe they can take a larger cut of the profits from prints at DPC Prints to cover the cost. Im sure print sellers will love that one

James

12/14/2005 10:27:48 PM · #166

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

Originally posted by wavelength:

Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Who's got the bottomless wallet that's going to pay for everyone's hardware upgrade that a few people keep insisting on?

Maybe people need to realize that you have to drop a few dollars on PC/MAC hardware as well as all those lenses everyone keeps raving "ooh, i just got a..." You need a monitor as well as a lens.

Like I said, i figured people who love digital photography would be more concerned about actually having equipment to edit those pictures on. I am wrong, as I usually end up being on this site. Is okay.

BTW, I'm running at 1600 x 1200 on a 19" monitor. Now it's not a pro version so it's probably not up to snuff.

This site belongs to everyone not just those who can afford everything at once.

Your running 1600x1200 and complaining about the change why?

Canon EF 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 DO IS USM

12/14/2005 10:29:20 PM · #167

Well I guess its concluded that the site wont change the 640 pixel limitation. Maybe in a few years time when everybody has upgraded their hardware. Me thinks this is a losing debate for those who wish to see higher resolution submission in the challenges here on this site.

I'm resting my case. The defendant wins.

cpanaioti

Canon EOS-40D

12/14/2005 10:29:45 PM · #168

Originally posted by Brent_Ward:

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

Originally posted by wavelength:

Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Who's got the bottomless wallet that's going to pay for everyone's hardware upgrade that a few people keep insisting on?

Maybe people need to realize that you have to drop a few dollars on PC/MAC hardware as well as all those lenses everyone keeps raving "ooh, i just got a..." You need a monitor as well as a lens.

Like I said, i figured people who love digital photography would be more concerned about actually having equipment to edit those pictures on. I am wrong, as I usually end up being on this site. Is okay.

BTW, I'm running at 1600 x 1200 on a 19" monitor. Now it's not a pro version so it's probably not up to snuff.

This site belongs to everyone not just those who can afford everything at once.

Your running 1600x1200 and complaining about the change why?

Another assumption. Wrong again. Not complaining.

12/14/2005 10:30:36 PM · #169

Originally posted by crayon:

Originally posted by Brent_Ward:
This reminds of the old photography discussions trying to convince people that there $20 tripod they used with there $1000 lens was worthless and not allowing them to produce the quality the lens was capable of.

This sounds interesting. Kind enough to explain a little bit more? Thanks

It's a known practice for amatuer photogs to spend thousands on gear, and $20 on a tripod that won't support the camera sufficiently. Not that everyone needs a tripod like mine or is crazy enough to spend that kind of money, but they need a decent tripod for support.

12/14/2005 10:31:52 PM · #170

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

Originally posted by Brent_Ward:

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

Originally posted by wavelength:

Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Who's got the bottomless wallet that's going to pay for everyone's hardware upgrade that a few people keep insisting on?

Maybe people need to realize that you have to drop a few dollars on PC/MAC hardware as well as all those lenses everyone keeps raving "ooh, i just got a..." You need a monitor as well as a lens.

Like I said, i figured people who love digital photography would be more concerned about actually having equipment to edit those pictures on. I am wrong, as I usually end up being on this site. Is okay.

BTW, I'm running at 1600 x 1200 on a 19" monitor. Now it's not a pro version so it's probably not up to snuff.

This site belongs to everyone not just those who can afford everything at once.

Your running 1600x1200 and complaining about the change why?

Another assumption. Wrong again. Not complaining.

Sorry, I used the wrong word. I meant,"instigating why?" ;o)

Canon PowerShot Pro 90 IS

12/14/2005 10:33:37 PM · #171

Originally posted by crayon:

I don't see why a higher res image that you have to click on the 640px image is out of the question. Then only those who want to see the higher res version will click.

coolhar

12/14/2005 10:34:01 PM · #172

Originally posted by Brent_Ward:

Your running 1600x1200 and complaining about the change why?

Because shes not as selfish as some other posters to this thread?

DjFenzl

12/14/2005 10:34:54 PM · #173

Originally posted by Brent_Ward:

Originally posted by crayon:
Well I guess its concluded that the site wont change the 640 pixel limitation. Maybe in a few years time when everybody has upgraded their hardware. Me thinks this is a losing debate for those who wish to see higher resolution submission in the challenges here on this site.

I'm resting my case. The defendant wins.

I don't see why a higher res image that you have to click on the 640px image is out of the question. Then only those who want to see the higher res version will click.

bandwidth and money.