The Gauntlet - bear_music vs. Art Roflmao

12/12/2005 11:06:15 AM · #51

Originally posted by mavrik:

Ok, I want to see Art move on to face Rikki (assuming Rikki moves on)

I had thought of something like that, but I have to revamp the way I do things first... This ended up being much more time consuming than I thought it would be.

Never fear though, I am working on an alternative way of doing things. ;-)

Samsung Galaxy S24, S24+, S24 Ultra

12/12/2005 11:09:03 AM · #52

Cool - once the format is set anyways...

Bear_Music

Sony 24-70mm f/4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

12/12/2005 11:18:10 AM · #53

Nice to see y'all dropping me like a rancid, once-hot potato. I'll slink back into my den and lick my wounds :-)

R.

Samsung Galaxy S24, S24+, S24 Ultra

12/12/2005 11:22:37 AM · #54

Lahooser!

Just kidding - that first round win was a knockout, but damned if he didn't get back up. A good contrast in styles unlike my match.

Bear_Music

Sony 24-70mm f/4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

12/12/2005 12:16:36 PM · #55

Originally posted by mavrik:

Lahooser!

Just kidding - that first round win was a knockout, but damned if he didn't get back up. A good contrast in styles unlike my match.

Yah. It's not really in my nature to go in the frenetic, hyper-surreal direction Ken has gone, and I can't keep up with him. Nobody in here is better than Ken at sticking outside elements into an image and making our eyes google :-)

One problem I had with this is just the sheer labor-factor involved in the process of working someone else's images. Take the crab and the squid: Ken grabbed the original images from somewhere, selected out the animals, and saved the pieces; he then has complete "pieces" of his puzzle he could then move around and resize at will. If I wanted to do the same thing (and I did, I did!) with the squid, say, I had a problem, because the squid-I-got was occluded by the waves, so if I wanted to move it out to the sea surface later, like Ken did, I didn't have a full squid's worth of image selectable to move.

I'd suggest that if this is done again, each of the component pieces might be provided along with the compoisite, by the winner of each stage. I felt like I was always behind the curve on this one, once the voters sent it down that path. My only real "defense" would have been to start creating my own pieces and overwriting some or all of Ken's, and i didn't feel like doing that because it was moving in such a coherent direction. It's like a story being told here, and I'd have felt petty trying to hijack the story line.

So in my latest "version" I just changed the color values and the "rendering" to a more dream-like state, but of course Ken's continuation of the story line is the more sensible way to go.

It's a hell of a job he's doing :-)

Robt.

UNCLEBRO

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6

12/12/2005 12:26:20 PM · #56

Don't feel bad, I'm about to get beat 3-0 and kicked out of the contest!!!

KaDi

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

12/12/2005 12:31:19 PM · #57

Originally posted by UNCLEBRO:

Don't feel bad, I'm about to get beat 3-0 and kicked out of the contest!!!

Don't feel bad...then you can go back to your regularly scheduled life!

I agree with R. There needs to be a way of passing the elements along. After round 1, kudzu and I were going to swap PSD files with layers intact--we learned they're frighteningly large! There are work-arounds, of course, but I do have a regularly scheduled life and plenty of other things I should be doing with my time. =( (Still an interesting learning experience overall.)

edit: can't spell today

Message edited by author 2005-12-12 12:32:08.

12/12/2005 12:32:07 PM · #58

Originally posted by KaDi:

Originally posted by UNCLEBRO:
Don't feel bad, I'm about to get beat 3-0 and kicked out of the contest!!!

Don't feel bad...then you can go back to your regularly scheduled life!

I agree with R. There needs to be a way of passing the elements along. After round 1, kudzu and I were going to swap PSD files with layers intact--we learned their frighteningly large! There are work-arounds, of course, but I do have a regularly scheduled life and plenty of other things I should be doing with my time. =( (Still an interesting learning experience overall.)

I think we just need more time overall each round. Maybe 5 days, maybe a week. That would help with the "life" part.

UNCLEBRO

12/12/2005 12:33:04 PM · #59

Originally posted by KaDi:

I actually thought that when the first round was complete, then the next image used was going to be a completely different one-that would at least ensure a level playing field each time?

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6

12/12/2005 12:34:10 PM · #60

Originally posted by UNCLEBRO:

I actually thought that when the first round was complete, then the next image used was going to be a completely different one-that would at least ensure a level playing field each time?

Aw c'mon I DID make you a completely new image for round 3. ;)

KaDi

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

12/12/2005 12:36:33 PM · #61

Originally posted by mavrik:

I think we just need more time overall each round. Maybe 5 days, maybe a week. That would help with the "life" part.

Drag it out? Arrrghhh! It wouldn't help in my case, as I would simply obsess about it over a much prolonged period of time and still finish my edits just under the wire. (Apparently I'm hardwired for obsessive thinking.)

ScottK

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

12/12/2005 12:58:18 PM · #62

Originally posted by bear_music:

Originally posted by mavrik:
Lahooser!

Just kidding - that first round win was a knockout, but damned if he didn't get back up. A good contrast in styles unlike my match.

Yah. It's not really in my nature to go in the frenetic, hyper-surreal direction Ken has gone, and I can't keep up with him. Nobody in here is better than Ken at sticking outside elements into an image and making our eyes google :-)

FWIW, I think your original edit really set the backdrop for everything Ken added later. Your saturated colors and depth created the fantasy-world feeling that made the other elelments fit much better.

LeeD

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

12/12/2005 01:05:40 PM · #63

Originally posted by ScottK:

I agree! I really liked the original fantasy hyper saturated colors you had in the first round.

Art Roflmao

Canon EOS-6D Mark II

12/12/2005 01:36:49 PM · #64

Well zippety-doo-da!I woke up to find I won round 4 without even getting to see bear's entry :( Can you post each of your entries in your portfolio, Robt? I would like to look at them again.

Anywho - thanks to all who participated and voted and commented. I went all out in round 4 because frankly, I don't think I could survive a round 5. It's like one of those super-powers that makes your nose bleed. LOL

I loved the challenge and I could not agree more that bear's round 1 pic set the tone. And regarding the layers - I considered sending bear the PSD file until I looked at it in round 2 and it was over 50MB and just got bigger from there. Hadn't thought about putting each element layer in a separate file - that would work. For the record, had I received the flat file and wanted to move elements, I would've done it by rebuilding / cloning the pieces - pixel by pixel if necessary. But I'm obsessive and since it doesn't pay the bills, that's not a good thing. ;-)

I'll post a separate thread with the source images for anyone who cares.

-Ken (Art)

ps: No baby yet, but getting very, very close.

edit: The book has been released. Hurry for your unsigned copies...
//www.dpchallenge.com/forum.php?action=read&FORUM_THREAD_ID=316825

Message edited by author 2005-12-13 01:56:03.

LeeD