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11/29/2005 01:33:10 AM · #1 |
My wife and I send out Holiday gifts to our clients every year and this year I bought chocolates from my daughter, who works at the Rocky Mountain Chocolate Factory in the mall. She was so happy cuz she gets about 10% commission and her boss was so happy cuz she gets rid of some holiday inventory.
Anyway, I snapped a pic while I was picking up the candy. Not much post-processing - comments are appreciated. Maybe I should grunge it up as a tribute to whatshisname. ;-) Thanks in advance.
Oh yeah - she got her lip pierced recently and decided dreadlocks is a good look for her - her mom calls her Sideshow Bob. Kids. Whaddya gonna do. |
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11/29/2005 01:41:57 AM · #2 |
Way to stick your subject smack in the center of the image, dude :-) I can actually see some grunge being beneficial here, anyhow. I'm sure Miss American Dreadlocks would appreciate it anyhow :-)
R. |
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11/29/2005 01:42:20 AM · #3 |
| She's got a basket growing out of her head. Parents...ugh...unbelieveable! ;) |
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11/29/2005 01:48:17 AM · #4 |
Originally posted by bear_music:
Way to stick your subject smack in the center of the image, dude :-) I can actually see some grunge being beneficial here, anyhow. I'm sure Miss American Dreadlocks would appreciate it anyhow :-)
R. |
Ya know, I've been thinking about this "Rule of Thirds" and I look at it a couple ways - first of all, since they call it a "Rule" I am almost compelled to break it - secondly, I think some shots are fine with center composition. Maybe the subject is really the stack of boxes to the left of her or maybe the pen in her hand. Isn't centered composition "out-of-the-box" since it breaks the rules?? Is it never appropriate to use it? Bear, you're the resident answer-man. :) |
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11/29/2005 01:49:15 AM · #5 |
Originally posted by Olyuzi:
She's got a basket growing out of her head. Parents...ugh...unbelieveable! ;) |
How do you know those aren't her dreadlocks dipped in frosting? :) |
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11/29/2005 01:55:02 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
Is it never appropriate to use it? Bear, you're the resident answer-man. :) |
Obviously centered composition is never appropriate or they wouldn't have a rule against it, right? |
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11/29/2005 01:57:02 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
Originally posted by bear_music:
Way to stick your subject smack in the center of the image, dude :-) I can actually see some grunge being beneficial here, anyhow. I'm sure Miss American Dreadlocks would appreciate it anyhow :-)
R. |
Ya know, I've been thinking about this "Rule of Thirds" and I look at it a couple ways - first of all, since they call it a "Rule" I am almost compelled to break it - secondly, I think some shots are fine with center composition. Maybe the subject is really the stack of boxes to the left of her or maybe the pen in her hand. Isn't centered composition "out-of-the-box" since it breaks the rules?? Is it never appropriate to use it? Bear, you're the resident answer-man. :) |
Well, symmetry is a "rule" also, and a classic one to boot.
Speaking seriously for a second, centering tends to work better when the subject fills a larger portion of the frame. There's an awful lot competing with her here, and neither size, placement, nor lighting is singling her out with any sort of certainty as your focal point in this shot. Cropping from right and top substantially will make this composition mre dynamic, but you know this and you're just yanking my chain.
Of course, I do a LOT of centered or nearly-centered shots, so I'm more partial to it than most.
Robt.
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11/29/2005 02:01:05 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
... first of all, since they call it a "Rule" I am almost compelled to break it ... |
And you wonder why she's gotten a lip piercing and dreds??? Don't be surprised when she comes home next time with tatoos, a nose piercing, and that dreg she just dragged off the street. lol
With her cute smile and looks she should be center attraction in any photo, regardless of how busy. |
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11/29/2005 02:11:14 AM · #9 |
Thanks bear - yeah chain-yankin - it's a habit. ;) Good feedback though. I wanted to crop some stuff but I don't get out of the office often, and I had this psychological barrier to removing anything I captured - it was like I knew it was busy and cluttered but I wanted it all in there. To be honest, I didn't think about it that much but now the issue is bringing out a bunch of inner trauma in me. :)
Oly - point taken. ;-) Let this be a lesson to all you young people who rebelled and gave your parents grief - there is a such thing as karma and it aint just a dog with no ass. :-P |
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11/29/2005 02:33:33 AM · #10 |
Cool, now where's the pics of the $300 worth of chocolate? :P
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11/29/2005 02:48:23 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by MadMan2k:
Cool, now where's the pics of the $300 worth of chocolate? :P |
Coming soon... ;-)
edit: Actually that stack of boxes to her left is most of it.
Message edited by author 2005-11-29 02:48:59. |
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11/29/2005 02:55:01 AM · #12 |
| send the left overs this way. That damn slippy never did send me those M&Ms he said i could have. Friggen canadian, with his friggen pumpkin rolling antics that flames me during the challenges!! |
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11/29/2005 02:58:45 AM · #13 |
With a centered subject you have an opportunity to post-process more easily.
I understand wanting to keep in the documentary-enhancing surroundings while trying to also make a portrait.
My first idea would be to create a highly graduated radial mask centered on her face, and then use it as a basis for either fading the surroundings, blurring, or both. Or something like that ... |
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11/29/2005 03:01:00 AM · #14 |
Originally posted by mesmeraj:
send the left overs this way. That damn slippy never did send me those M&Ms he said i could have. Friggen canadian, with his friggen pumpkin rolling antics that flames me during the challenges!! |
You can now order them with a custom imprint, up to two messages/colors per order ... we ought to get some which say
SMILE!
U R ON DPC |
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11/29/2005 03:34:43 AM · #15 |
Did you give her one of these?
In consideration of my engagement as a model, upon the terms herewith stated, I hereby give to Art Roflmao, his/her heirs, legal representatives and assigns, those for whom Art Roflmao is acting, and those acting with his/her authority and permission:
a) the unrestricted right and permission to copyright, and use, mis-use, re-use, publish, and republish photographic portraits or pictures of me or in which I may be included intact or in part, composite or distorted in character or form, with or without Godzilla or any combination of the Woodies, without restriction as to changes or transformations in conjunction with my own or a fictitious name, or reproduction hereof in color or otherwise, made through any and all media now or hereafter known for illustration, art, promotion, advertising, trade, or any other purpose whatsoever, including Photoshop me some hair contests, DPC Enquirer present or future issues, or even for use on any part of the family's refrigerator artwork to embarass all those that enter the residence.
b) I also permit the use of any printed material in connection therewith, including all correspondance that may arise from the international nature of which this image may be used, especially in the form of internet forum posts and public showings to strangers wordwide.
c) I hereby relinquish any right that I may have to examine or approve the completed product or products or the advertising copy or printed matter that may be used in conjunction therewith or the use to which it may be applied, as parents vs. kids rules are always so unfair, and always because "I said so" reasoning seems the family way.
d) I hereby release, discharge and agree to save harmless Art Roflmao, his/her heirs, legal representatives or assigns, and all persons functioning under his/her permission or authority, or those for whom he/she is functioning, from any liability by virtue of any blurring, distortion, alteration, optical illusion, or use in composite form whether intentional or otherwise, that may occur or be produced in the taking of said picture or in any subsequent processing thereof, as well as any publication thereof, including without limitation any claims for libel or invasion of privacy, including the right to lock myself in the bathroom for privacy. Optical illusions may include but are not limited to forms of public embarassment by Godzilla, being torched in villages, Woodies and/or any forms of digital photo manipulation that may seem far too well done and may seem believable to the untrained eye.
e) I hereby affirm that I am over the age of majority and have the right to contract in my own name, or any other name I may take to attempt to hide from the public humiliation my so-called photographer of many aliases creates on my behalf. I have read the above authorization, release and agreement, prior to its execution; I fully understand the contents thereof, though have no choice, nor say in the matter. This agreement shall be binding upon me and my heirs, legal representatives and assigns, regardless if I like it or not.
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11/29/2005 03:38:55 AM · #16 |
| Oh my god that is soooo clever!!!! Ken should frame that one! |
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11/29/2005 04:16:08 AM · #17 |
Here is all the candy:
And here is an "out-of-the-box" shot...
And just to give you an idea of the size/scale of the candy...
and it must be good for you or they wouldn't put the Nutrition label on it...
And Brad - LOL! But the right to use, misuse, burn, embarass, etc. is what I like to call "Implied Consent" which means that by simple the fact that she (or anyone else, living or dead, related or unrelated, knowingly or otherwise), exists, coupled with the fact that I exist, means that consent to do all of those things you mentioned is implied and approved unless an expression of disdain, mistrust, annoyance or irritation is indicated by the party of the second part.
But since joynim thought your legalese was so clever, I had to oblige her...
Either I misunderstood her context, or she doesn't know the types of things I like to hang on my walls. ;-) |
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11/29/2005 04:24:01 AM · #18 |
| LOL You two guys crack me up!! Plus I cant help but admire your cleverness thanks for sharing it with us :) |
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11/29/2005 09:40:45 AM · #19 |
| I think I love this whole thread (except I don't eat chocolate). I read some of the legaleze stuff to my dad and he loved it. |
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11/29/2005 10:08:19 AM · #20 |
I want chocolates, Ken. Send em here, send em send em send em!!!! Send me that cute girl too, she looks about the same age as my oldest. They make great dishwashers lol
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11/29/2005 11:37:45 AM · #21 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by mesmeraj:
send the left overs this way. That damn slippy never did send me those M&Ms he said i could have. Friggen canadian, with his friggen pumpkin rolling antics that flames me during the challenges!! |
You can now order them with a custom imprint, up to two messages/colors per order ... we ought to get some which say
SMILE!
U R ON DPC |
You can get canadians with stuff stamped on them? I need to get me some of those!! |
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11/29/2005 11:40:19 AM · #22 |
Originally posted by mesmeraj:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by mesmeraj:
send the left overs this way. That damn slippy never did send me those M&Ms he said i could have. Friggen canadian, with his friggen pumpkin rolling antics that flames me during the challenges!! |
You can now order them with a custom imprint, up to two messages/colors per order ... we ought to get some which say
SMILE!
U R ON DPC |
You can get canadians with stuff stamped on them? I need to get me some of those!! |
Actually it's a tattoo.........
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11/29/2005 11:41:01 AM · #23 |
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
And just to give you an idea of the size/scale of the candy...
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I could live in that box.
That is insane, wrong, and omgsogood all at the same time. |
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11/29/2005 11:54:37 AM · #24 |
Originally posted by mesmeraj:
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
And just to give you an idea of the size/scale of the candy...
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I could live in that box.
That is insane, wrong, and omgsogood all at the same time. |
Maybe he's on to his own Sweet & Sour here.
Well maybe Sweet & Twisted is more like it... |
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11/29/2005 12:04:23 PM · #25 |
Originally posted by BradP:
Did you give her one of these?
In consideration of my engagement as a model, upon the terms herewith stated, I hereby give to Art Roflmao, his/her heirs, legal representatives and assigns, those for whom Art Roflmao is acting, and those acting with his/her authority and permission:
a) the unrestricted right and permission to copyright, and use, mis-use, re-use, publish, and republish photographic portraits or pictures of me or in which I may be included intact or in part, composite or distorted in character or form, with or without Godzilla or any combination of the Woodies, without restriction as to changes or transformations in conjunction with my own or a fictitious name, or reproduction hereof in color or otherwise, made through any and all media now or hereafter known for illustration, art, promotion, advertising, trade, or any other purpose whatsoever, including Photoshop me some hair contests, DPC Enquirer present or future issues, or even for use on any part of the family's refrigerator artwork to embarass all those that enter the residence.
b) I also permit the use of any printed material in connection therewith, including all correspondance that may arise from the international nature of which this image may be used, especially in the form of internet forum posts and public showings to strangers wordwide.
c) I hereby relinquish any right that I may have to examine or approve the completed product or products or the advertising copy or printed matter that may be used in conjunction therewith or the use to which it may be applied, as parents vs. kids rules are always so unfair, and always because "I said so" reasoning seems the family way.
d) I hereby release, discharge and agree to save harmless Art Roflmao, his/her heirs, legal representatives or assigns, and all persons functioning under his/her permission or authority, or those for whom he/she is functioning, from any liability by virtue of any blurring, distortion, alteration, optical illusion, or use in composite form whether intentional or otherwise, that may occur or be produced in the taking of said picture or in any subsequent processing thereof, as well as any publication thereof, including without limitation any claims for libel or invasion of privacy, including the right to lock myself in the bathroom for privacy. Optical illusions may include but are not limited to forms of public embarassment by Godzilla, being torched in villages, Woodies and/or any forms of digital photo manipulation that may seem far too well done and may seem believable to the untrained eye.
e) I hereby affirm that I am over the age of majority and have the right to contract in my own name, or any other name I may take to attempt to hide from the public humiliation my so-called photographer of many aliases creates on my behalf. I have read the above authorization, release and agreement, prior to its execution; I fully understand the contents thereof, though have no choice, nor say in the matter. This agreement shall be binding upon me and my heirs, legal representatives and assigns, regardless if I like it or not. |
brad, i just updated my model release form with this...it's great! ; )
art, i left a comment at the pic. your daughter is adorable!!
jeannel
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