Cokin A or P - DPChallenge Forums

11/28/2005 11:06:18 PM · #1

I want to get an ND filter. I know there are various grades of ND. What cokin system is better (A or P) and why? I am have a 58mm lens and will have a 77mm lens soon.

Since I am starting from scratch, what will I need to have a complete system with ND filter(s)? Any help would be highly appreciated!!!

wavelength

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D

11/28/2005 11:09:47 PM · #2

Originally posted by mirdonamy:

I am have a 58mm lens and will have a 77mm lens soon.

You'll need the P series for a 77mm, I think that's the maximum on the p, then you have to go to (z or x?) the higher ones.

Beetle

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

11/28/2005 11:21:07 PM · #3

Yes, you'll need the P series holder which will fit all the P filters.
Then you need adaptors according to your lens size, to attach the P holder to them.
Here is the Cokin website

I haven't tried it out yet, but I own a gradual neutral density filter that will some day come in very handy (when I remember to pack it and actually HAVE it on me when I need it).

Neil

Fujifilm X-T30

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

11/28/2005 11:51:05 PM · #4

You need the P system.

If you buy some, buy the lens caps (one for each lens). That way you can leave the adapter ring on the lens, and cover the lens. It also allows you to use the same size lens cap for all your lenses (big!).

I started a "users group" thread a while back:
Cokin Users Group Thread

Olyuzi

Panasonic Lumix DMC-GX7

Panasonic Lumix G 14mm F2.5 ASPH

11/29/2005 01:01:50 AM · #5

Max size on Cokin-P is 82mm. If you have to go to the X or Z systems, rarely needed for DSLR lenses, you will pay much higher prices for those filters and that will also mean you'll have to purchase seperate X or Z sized filter holders and adapter rings. A much bigger outlay of money for the X-Z systems, and probably not worth it.
ND cokin P filters are not expensive. In the range of $13-$15. I would also recommend the graduated ND filters as well, and Cokin makes CPL in different colors and a new infrared filter, that is excellent.

Btw, there are other companies besides Cokin that produce square filters of the unscrew type, such as those produced by Lee (very highly rated), HiTech, and Lindahl, though I have no experience with those.

Good luck.

jbsmithana

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 12-24mm f/4.0G IF-ED

11/29/2005 01:10:36 AM · #6

I use the Cokin system and think it is very versatile. But be careful if you plan to use it on a 77mm wide angle, like 10-20mm. The Cokin P filter holder shows at 12-13mm on my Nikon 12-24 mm lens. For the wide angle I think I'm going to have to buy a regular thin circular poloraizer.

Neil

Fujifilm X-T30

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

11/29/2005 01:45:29 AM · #7

Originally posted by jbsmithana:

The problem isn't the holder (at least if you have the wide angle holder like I do). It's the circular polarizer attachment. It shows at the widest few mm on my Canon 10-22.

Though if you don't have the wide angle holder, perhaps the holder itself shows.

11/29/2005 03:04:43 AM · #8

Wow, thanks everyone! I am going to look at the Cokin user group and their website tomorrow to see what I need to get set up :) Will it work on my 77mm and my 58mm or will I need more than one adapter?

Canon EF 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 DO IS USM

12/04/2005 09:34:16 PM · #9

So, I need a P series holder: //www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=14265&is=REG&addedTroughType=categoryNavigation or do I need this: //www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=302175&is=REG&addedTroughType=categoryNavigation I don't know?

What is the coupler for: //www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=14263&is=REG&addedTroughType=categoryNavigation

Does this have everything I'll need for my 77mm? //www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=250059&is=REG&addedTroughType=search

What is this for? Do I need it? //www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=14096&is=REG&addedTroughType=search

Also, which do you find more useful: ND 2x, 4x or 8x. Which one or two would you get to start?

Thank you all for your great help and generosity in sharing this knowledge with me!!!

cpanaioti

Canon EOS-40D

12/04/2005 10:18:30 PM · #10

Originally posted by mirdonamy:

Does this have everything I'll need for my 77mm? //www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=250059&is=REG&addedTroughType=search

Adapter ring and holder. Just add filters.

The slim holder would be good for ultra wide angle lenses to avoid vignetting.

Message edited by author 2005-12-04 22:20:57.

jbsmithana

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 12-24mm f/4.0G IF-ED

12/04/2005 10:35:23 PM · #11

Originally posted by nshapiro:

Originally posted by jbsmithana:
I use the Cokin system and think it is very versatile. But be careful if you plan to use it on a 77mm wide angle, like 10-20mm. The Cokin P filter holder shows at 12-13mm on my Nikon 12-24 mm lens. For the wide angle I think I'm going to have to buy a regular thin circular poloraizer.

The problem isn't the holder (at least if you have the wide angle holder like I do). It's the circular polarizer attachment. It shows at the widest few mm on my Canon 10-22.

Though if you don't have the wide angle holder, perhaps the holder itself shows.

Thanks. What a dunce! I never even knew they had a one slot wide angle filter holder. I'll be ordering one now.

12/04/2005 11:06:46 PM · #12

So, is the one I posted a slim one? //www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=250059&is=REG&addedTroughType=search or do you have a link for me? :)

jbsmithana