Transparency Unseen - DPChallenge Forums

11/07/2005 02:57:37 AM · #2

Hey Rikki - left a comment on the entry. I think the transparency could have been shown better maybe if you had your hands on the glass (as in outtake #1), but still be able to see the mask (like in your entry) - maybe smearing the hands downward - maybe even having the mask-face against the glass slipping downward as if you are on your last breath.

Fun is what counts and looks like that part was successful!

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11/07/2005 03:20:26 AM · #3

I'm assuming this is an open "outtakes" thread, so i hope you don't mind...

I was all over the map (as usual) on this one:

I finally went with something very different and picked the second of these two:

SDW

Canon EOS-60D

11/07/2005 03:42:06 AM · #4

Originally posted by kpriest:

I'm assuming this is an open "outtakes" thread, so i hope you don't mind...

I was all over the map (as usual) on this one:

I finally went with something very different and picked the second of these two:

Left you a comment on outtake-4

Message edited by author 2005-11-10 03:19:13.

Rikki

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11/07/2005 09:45:57 AM · #5

Thanks for the insight Ken :)

11/07/2005 06:40:02 PM · #6

Originally posted by rikki11:

Thanks for the insight Ken :)

Sure. :)

Bump one last time for Rikki or anyone who wants to post Transparency Outtakes which, by the way, I enjoy discussing much more after the challenge results are announced. :)

DrAchoo

Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX5

11/07/2005 06:48:55 PM · #7

Let's see, can we combine the outtakes with the underrated thread and save space? I think that Graphicfunk's entry at 43rd was a travesty. I pegged that as a ribbon winner easy.

Kpriest, I like your entry as best, but the spoon, knife, fork is a nice presentation of "the mundane"...

Rikki, I do like the "hands on glass" better, but that particular shot obfuscates the gasmask too much. You can't tell what's going on. So I like that pose, but you'd have to do the shot over.

Message edited by author 2005-11-07 18:51:35.

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11/07/2005 06:53:57 PM · #8

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Let's see, can we combine the outtakes with the underrated thread and save space?

Good idea.

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

I think that Graphicfunk's entry at 43rd was a travesty. I pegged that as a ribbon winner easy.

Actually it was 36th. I agree it shoulda been higher - I believe it was because it looks like something that could very easily be done in Photoshop and even though it was all done legally, I think few people appreciate that aspect of it.

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Kpriest, I like your entry as best, but the spoon, knife, fork is a nice presentation of "the mundane"...

Thanks. :)

livitup

Nikon D70

11/07/2005 07:16:07 PM · #9

Ken, your woody outtake made me chortle (You are always so creative with those little guys!). But I really liked the shower door shot with the hand on the door. That would have been a strong 8 or 9.

As for graphicfunk's entry, I was certain it was done legally, though I figured that it was a cut out picture taped to cardboard or something (despite the title). I think the shot is flat, I would have gone with a black and white squared chess board, or even a red and black checker board. The tan is just so close to the skin tones that the whole thing looks flat to me.

This was my underrated shot of the challenge...

Yeah, 31st ain't bad, but I pegged it for top 15 or so... I liked it a whole lot better than the other bride shot.

And was I the only one who voted with a strict interpretation of transparency? I don't want to start the challenge nazi argument again, but it seemed like there were an awful lot of reflections, refractions, water drops, etc. that were'nt really transparency. I don't even feel that shutter speed ghosts and similar photographic techniques are examples of transparency.

I saw a lot of people who took a picture of a flower with water droplets on it. Yes, the water drops are transparent. But in that case the focal point of the picture wasn't the transparency, it was the flower. And that was my biggest problem with shots like Rikki's too. It seems like you just wanted to take a picture like this, and thought you could justify entering it in a contest by putting a piece of glass in front of the scene, putting some water droplets on it, and calling it transparency.

To use an example already in this thread, look at Ken's photo. The shower door is a major component of the shot, it makes the shot what it is. Take the water droplets off the flower, and you still have a pretty macro shot of a flower.

For that matter, the blue ribbon photo got a 7 from me for that very reason... there isn't really any transparency there. (What are you looking at behind those northern lights?)

[/rant]. Sorry about that.

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11/07/2005 07:23:36 PM · #10

Thanks for the comments, Andrew. Challenge Nazi remarks duly noted. ;-) I don't disagree with them - just tired of that battle.

The underrated shot you posted took me by surprise - I thought I voted 100% but I have found out that I missed quite a few, including that one. I think it might have been better showing the back of the Groom's hand on her back (or somehwere in that general vicinity) ;-)

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11/07/2005 07:49:56 PM · #11

Originally posted by livitup:

For that matter, the blue ribbon photo got a 7 from me for that very reason... there isn't really any transparency there. (What are you looking at behind those northern lights?)

Stars.

But I got the feeling the winning shot (although a great shot) was shoe-horned into the challenge. It could just as easily have been entered for 'shutter speed', 'landscape', or 'wide angle'

livitup

Nikon D70

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11/07/2005 07:58:23 PM · #12

Originally posted by jhonan:

Originally posted by livitup:
For that matter, the blue ribbon photo got a 7 from me for that very reason... there isn't really any transparency there. (What are you looking at behind those northern lights?)

Stars.

But I got the feeling the winning shot (although a great shot) was shoe-horned into the challenge. It could just as easily have been entered for 'shutter speed', 'landscape', or 'wide angle'

Yeah, and that was my whole complaint with it. For me you loose a point if I wouldn't think of the challenge title within the first dozen tries, and you get a point if I would come up with the name of the challenge in the first 3 tries. Everything else is point neutral for me. The "transparency" of the stars is tenuous, and I just can't personally vote up an entry like that. :(

Edit: I swear I'm not usually a challenge nazi. For some reason the "liberties" taken by some photographers for this challenge just seemed too great for me.

Message edited by author 2005-11-07 20:00:32.

DrAchoo

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