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11/02/2005 05:30:02 PM · #1 |
I'm a little confused on one of the rules that applies to both Basic and Advanced editing:
Originally posted by rules:
Your entry must come from a single photograph, taken during the specified challenge timeframe. You may not combine multiple exposures. You may not post-process your entry from or to include elements of multiple images, graphics or text such as multiple exposures, clip art, computer-rendered images, or elements from other photographs (even those taken during the challenge week). |
My question is what does this mean? I've seen several winning entries that make use of other photographs in their image. I steered clear of some ideas that others are using because I thought this ruled meant you could not have more than one image in a shot. So can I take a picture of a picture that I have either printed or have displayed on my screen and use that in a challenge or not?
Thanks!
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11/02/2005 05:34:09 PM · #2 |
You can have another photo in your photo as part of the set up, as long as it doesn't make up the entirety of your photo.
This shot, for instance, which was legal:
For examples of shots that violate the Literal Artwork rule, see the tutorial.
What the bit in the rules means is that you can't take a photo that has a crappy sky and then paste in a better sky from another pic. Or cut out your person and put them on a different background. Or otherwise manipulate your file so that it includes elements from more than one photo. Make sense? |
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11/02/2005 05:37:38 PM · #3 |
Some of the entries in "Shutter Speed" have used one shot with a long exposure and moved the people during the shot to give the look of "double" exposures. That would be legal. However, taking three shots and combining them (or as I do in advance processing for other projects - take one shot - expose for the brightest and darkest areas and then combine) would be a rules violation here. I also suspect but don't know - that taking one shot and processing in RAW for both the dark and light areas and combining the results would probably violate the same rule. (But I could be wrong.)
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11/02/2005 05:38:51 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by Mary Ann Melton:
I also suspect but don't know - that taking one shot and processing in RAW for both the dark and light areas and combining the results would probably violate the same rule. (But I could be wrong.) |
That's actually legal, I believe. Which even I didn't know until recently. |
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11/02/2005 06:00:15 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by mk:
Originally posted by Mary Ann Melton:
I also suspect but don't know - that taking one shot and processing in RAW for both the dark and light areas and combining the results would probably violate the same rule. (But I could be wrong.) |
That's actually legal, I believe. Which even I didn't know until recently. |
Legal for advanced - but would it also be legal for basic rules????
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11/02/2005 06:03:46 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by Mary Ann Melton:
Legal for advanced - but would it also be legal for basic rules???? |
No, because there would be no legal way to combine the two -- doing so would require a selective edit and/or the use of layers.
~Terry
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11/02/2005 06:34:59 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
Originally posted by Mary Ann Melton:
Legal for advanced - but would it also be legal for basic rules???? |
No, because there would be no legal way to combine the two -- doing so would require a selective edit and/or the use of layers.
~Terry |
Use of adjustment layers in normal mode IS allowed under basic rules as is changing the opacity . . . . . . . However, adding the layer from the differently processed raw would probably NOT be considered an adjustment layer (because it contains pixels). And while you might be able to use 2 layers of levels and opacity to process the image differently- your best results from combining images to increase the dynamic range of the photo is best done with spot editing using masks and brushes - definitely not fitting the rules for basic editing.
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11/02/2005 11:11:34 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by mk:
For examples of shots that violate the Literal Artwork rule, see the tutorial.
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That's a huge help! Wish I would have read that earlier! (is there a link to it in the rules?... there needs to be if there isn't)
Thanks a ton! Time to be more creative!
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11/03/2005 12:00:18 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by Mary Ann Melton:
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
Originally posted by Mary Ann Melton:
Legal for advanced - but would it also be legal for basic rules???? |
No, because there would be no legal way to combine the two -- doing so would require a selective edit and/or the use of layers.
~Terry |
Use of adjustment layers in normal mode IS allowed under basic rules as is changing the opacity . . . . . . . However, adding the layer from the differently processed raw would probably NOT be considered an adjustment layer (because it contains pixels). And while you might be able to use 2 layers of levels and opacity to process the image differently- your best results from combining images to increase the dynamic range of the photo is best done with spot editing using masks and brushes - definitely not fitting the rules for basic editing. |
Adjustment layers are a particular type of layer, so you are correct. Layers that contain pixel data are forbidden in Basic.
~Terry
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