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Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 55-200mm f/4.0-5.6G ED

10/25/2005 03:30:13 PM · #1

This is my first challenge where I was desperately looking for entries that DO MEET a challenge. May be it is because description of the challenge was so short? I liked a challenge and expected interesting photos with some strange content provoking a question or surprised faces reflecting a question. IMHO, most of entries were so far from this understanding, that I gave up and refused to vote. Am I alone with my problem?

AzCKelly

Nikon D70s

10/25/2005 03:38:55 PM · #2

What challenge are you talking about?

edit: ....OK, stupid question!!

Message edited by author 2005-10-25 15:40:55.

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D

10/25/2005 03:49:09 PM · #3

Actually, I felt that way about personification. I voted on several entries then quit. I did vote on what even though I thought a lot of the entries were weak (as far as meeting the challenge.

frisca

Nikon D70

10/25/2005 03:55:01 PM · #4

i would encourage you to vote if you enjoy looking at the photos. I tend to look at challenge topics as "themes" to focus the creativity of each photographer. I don't hang my whole voting experience on whether it meets the challenge. But the bottom line is, enjoy yourself!

10/25/2005 04:04:49 PM · #5

For me, meeting the challenge is very important. I try not to limit my idea of what meets the challenge too much, but if I can't see a connection I vote low (1,2 or 3).

jfriesen

Panasonic LUMIX GH5

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

10/25/2005 04:06:42 PM · #6

I only found one that I truley thought fit the challenge.

10/25/2005 04:09:29 PM · #7

Must have been mine, since I haven't got any DNMC comments!

Edit--LOL

Message edited by author 2005-10-25 16:09:50.

10/26/2005 01:05:43 AM · #8

Originally posted by chaimelle:

For me, meeting the challenge is very important. I try not to limit my idea of what meets the challenge too much, but if I can't see a connection I vote low (1,2 or 3).

That was the reason for me to quit a voting - there were lot of beautiful, interesting, technically perfect photos - I would feel bad to vote them low. On the other hand, ignoring challenge themes would lead us to weekly heaps of unsorted photos. I like the challenge of meeting a theme - I learn to put a message in my photos, not shooting whatever I like.

10/26/2005 01:20:09 AM · #9

Originally posted by frisca:

Yes, I do enjoy a lot. I enjoy voting high, I feel bad voting low, because I know - somebody maybe put his soul and hopes into that poorly looking photo, he/she is learning and my comment should encourage, not judge. Then I look through the highest and lowest rated photos to learn dos and don'ts to make my photos better. Lot of fun and possitive experience. And I feel a similiar attitude from other members - community of creative, sensitive, friendly and tolerant people.

Sigma 70-300mm f/4-5.6 APO DG Macro for Canon

10/26/2005 01:22:55 AM · #10

Originally posted by chaimelle:

Must have been mine, since I haven't got any DNMC comments!

Edit--LOL

What is DNMC?

olddj

Canon EOS-20D

10/26/2005 02:38:36 AM · #11

Did Not Meet Challenge

Jacque

Bear_Music

Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra

Sony 24-70mm F4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

10/26/2005 02:54:25 AM · #12

Originally posted by Antanas:

Originally posted by chaimelle:
For me, meeting the challenge is very important. I try not to limit my idea of what meets the challenge too much, but if I can't see a connection I vote low (1,2 or 3).

That was the reason for me to quit a voting - there were lot of beautiful, interesting, technically perfect photos - I would feel bad to vote them low. On the other hand, ignoring challenge themes would lead us to weekly heaps of unsorted photos. I like the challenge of meeting a theme - I learn to put a message in my photos, not shooting whatever I like.

Just out of curiosity, how can an image NOT meet a challenge that consists solely of the word "What"? Granted, a lot of images went out of their way to portray the "idea" of "What!!?" as a reaction (two of them ribboned, in fact, so that was a popular interpretation) and quite a few more went the "puzzle picture" route, trying to evoke a "what is THAT?" reaction from voters. Both of these approaches seem very challenge-specific to me, but honestly I can't see ANY image as not "meeting" this challenge, if only because when I saw one that seemed to have no connection to MY concept of "what", I asked myself "What was he THINKING?" and bingo; it met the challenge... jejejeâ�¢

Robt.

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.4D

10/26/2005 04:20:27 AM · #13

Originally posted by bear_music:

Originally posted by Antanas:

Originally posted by chaimelle:
For me, meeting the challenge is very important. I try not to limit my idea of what meets the challenge too much, but if I can't see a connection I vote low (1,2 or 3).

That was the reason for me to quit a voting - there were lot of beautiful, interesting, technically perfect photos - I would feel bad to vote them low. On the other hand, ignoring challenge themes would lead us to weekly heaps of unsorted photos. I like the challenge of meeting a theme - I learn to put a message in my photos, not shooting whatever I like.

Just out of curiosity, how can an image NOT meet a challenge that consists solely of the word "What"? Granted, a lot of images went out of their way to portray the "idea" of "What!!?" as a reaction (two of them ribboned, in fact, so that was a popular interpretation) and quite a few more went the "puzzle picture" route, trying to evoke a "what is THAT?" reaction from voters. Both of these approaches seem very challenge-specific to me, but honestly I can't see ANY image as not "meeting" this challenge, if only because when I saw one that seemed to have no connection to MY concept of "what", I asked myself "What was he THINKING?" and bingo; it met the challenge... jejejeâ�¢

Robt.

Well, to my understanding, challenge theme isn't anything that could be related or includes the word "what", e.g. "What is your name?" "What is around the corner", "What a good news!" etc. are far from "What?" or "What?!". I would say the meet a theme like "What..." or so. I accepted the theme question as completed, i.e. What? and that's it. I suppose this was a reason, why entries that went ways you precisely described, were ribboned.

taterbug

Nikon D300

10/26/2005 05:09:57 AM · #14

So if you are finding that out of 2 or 3 hundred entries, that most of them are not meeting your intrepretation of the challenge, then either most of those 2 or 3 hundred people are wrong, or maybe, just maybe your intrepretation is not broad enough???

Something to think about maybe?

I'm certainly not saying disregard the topic, that is part of what makes this site unique, but personally, I normally only find a small handful of entries that I can't see a connection to the theme. Granted, some will hit it more blatantly than others, and maybe get higher scores, but I'm not out to slam anything that doesn't exactly conform with my line of thought, I try to keep a pretty open mind.

10/26/2005 08:30:21 AM · #15

Originally posted by taterbug:

Exactly why I quit voting on personification. My idea of personification is of something not man made, not set up, but just happens to look human or emotive (like a rock with a "face") It was obvious most people had other ideas so I just didn't vote.

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

10/26/2005 03:02:03 PM · #16

Originally posted by taterbug:

Exactly - this is my personal, subjective interpretation of theme, and my understanding of acceptable tolerance and creativity while submitting and voting, but not a matter of who's right or wrong. I'm not going to slam anybody because of his/her understanding. Don't you think it's a good idea not to vote when you realize you see it other way? And to discuss it later with other members?

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

10/26/2005 03:14:07 PM · #17

Originally posted by bear_music:

... when I saw one that seemed to have no connection to MY concept of "what", I asked myself "What was he THINKING?" and bingo; it met the challenge... jejejeâ�¢

Robt.

My dad (a teacher) used to confront the "bored" kid by asking how he could be bored when everything was interesting, which they'd invariably deny.

He'd challenge the kid to name something which wasn't interesting. When they'd done that he'd agree: "You're right, that's the only thing in the whole world which isn't interesting. Isn't that interesting?"