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10/17/2005 09:33:17 PM · #26
My recommendation is the D50 and as much zoom lens as you can afford (more than 200mm is probably overkill.) Depending on the sport, a flash can be a great help (providing its allowed).
10/17/2005 11:11:12 PM · #27
Ok. What about Nikon D50 body only with a 24-120 mm F.3.5-5.6 AF-S VR lens?
10/17/2005 11:31:50 PM · #28
Do you know how much light there is around the court? It's really difficult to decide what you need without knowing that. Maybe there are some other photographers that have shot in that environment and can help you.

The lens you suggest is a very good one but remember that the widest aperture at 120mm is f5.6 (at least I think that's right) and only goes to f3.5 at 24mm. If there's insufficient light, the VR is not going to have enough effect to save the day.

I have the 28-200 G lens which is a great little lens and much less costly than the VR. If f5.6 is going to be fine for you at the long end, think about this one unless you really feel the VR is worth the money. I ended up selling my 24-120 VR lens as, for me, the VR didn't make up for the loss of range vs the 28-200. But it may well be different for you. I don't do low light shooting with this lens.

Maybe some experienced low light sports shooters can chime in.
10/17/2005 11:59:09 PM · #29
Thanks, no one ever explained it that way before.
10/18/2005 08:34:39 AM · #30
Originally posted by jhonan:

Originally posted by BobsterLobster:

Nikon are not so good at high ISOs, Canon definitely have the edge on that one. This has a large bearing on shooting sports.

Damn, I said to myself... "don't do it, don't get into pixel peeping"... But I just can't resist;

Luminance noise graph

Indicated ISO sensitivity is on the horizontal axis of this graph, standard deviation of luminosity (normalized image) on the vertical axis.

From: //www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond50/page17.asp

Didn't realise the D50 was that much better with noise than the D70, thanks for the link.
10/18/2005 02:01:56 PM · #31
I suggest that you go to the store, bring your own memory cards, and shoot some dark corner of the store with each camera (with similar lenses). Shoot JPG and RAW (use Raw Shooter Essentials - a free program - to convert) and demo a noise reduction program (like noise ninja or neat image). You should use ISO 1600 on both cameras and ISO 3200 on the Canons (IIRC, Nikon doesn't have ISO 3200). Note that noise is more noticeable on enlargements, noise is not always an issue on smaller pictures (4x6).

Also use ISO 100 and 200 to take a shot of a well lit part of the store (or use flash) because you'll want to take other pictures than basketball.

As for lenses, a 50mm is great, but if you only get one lens, I'd recomend a 24-70 f/2.8 (Canon is great, Sigma is almost as good and a whole lot cheaper). You can get close to the game in High School and lower grades, don't be afraid to move to court-side (so you can put off buying the 70-200 f/2.8 for a bit).

The 24-70 f/2.8 lens will also be good as a general use lens (but it's not quite wide enough for some pictures, so get the kit lens if you can spare the $100). Note that if you have a 24-70 f/2.8 then the 50mm f/1.4 is more appealing than the 50mm f/1.8 becasuse the 1.4 is two f/stops faster than the 2.8, but the 1.8 is just over 1 f/stop faster.

10/18/2005 05:46:48 PM · #32
Thanks for your sugeestion. I went to Circuit City today. I got to hold both cameras, but could not take pictures with either. (No batteries) I think I like the grip on the Nikon D50. There is a kit on the net that has the body, a 24-60 f/2.8 DG and a 70-200 f/2.8 DG lens. Do you think 24-60 2.8 DG will sub for the 24-70 f/2.8?

You are right. I will shoot more than just basketball. I just want to know what would be the best lens to start out with. I guess the kit lens would be good for general use, then the zoom for b-ball. I guess for a gym setting, the lower the f/stop the better. Right?
10/18/2005 07:25:35 PM · #33
I think hankk has made some great suggestions.
Looks like you found your kit!

Enjoy it.
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