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10/12/2005 10:08:10 AM · #51 |
Votes: 56
Views: 66
Avg Vote: 5.1429
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man i'd really like some explication onto why no one likes my shot. Everyone i showed it to loved it and though it fit the challenge perfectly, hell, even i did!... ah man... |
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10/12/2005 10:16:00 AM · #52 |
Votes: 60
Views: 82
Avg Vote: 4.3333
I have had comments from ten people I know they go
1.People should look at the photo b4 they vote
2.There is no reason for it to be that low and if there was they should leave a comment on why
3.What are people thinking
4.The photo is at least a 7
5............
6.good photo shame people at dp dont see it that way
7.WTF
8.The photo speaks for itself it could be used in an advert
9.I like it people must be voting low for a start off
10.Why???
Can u tell im not happy not because people are voting it low it is with people not leaving a comment telling me why. I am going to go on every photo in this challenge this week and leave what i voted and why because that is what i would like people to do for me so i know where i am going wrong.
PLEASE LEAVE A COMMENT ON ALL PHOTOS OTHERWISE HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET BETTER AT TAKING OUR PHOTOS? |
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10/12/2005 10:38:18 AM · #53 |
I voted several times w/o leaving a comment. IMO MOST of the photos do not meet the challenge. I voted:
1-2 if the photo did not show a human quality at all...
1-3 if the photo did not show a human quality but the owner attempted to "hook" it in with their title...ie; If a dead flower was photographed on the ground with the title.."Lonely in Death"
5-7 if the photo showed a human quality and was "unset-up"...ie; a photo of a tree or a household appliance that suggested a human quality without having to have an "eye" or "nose" or something else "added" to it.
IMO there is none over a 7....including MINE !
KS |
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10/12/2005 10:44:03 AM · #54 |
Originally posted by kenskid:
I voted several times w/o leaving a comment. IMO MOST of the photos do not meet the challenge. I voted:
1-2 if the photo did not show a human quality at all...
1-3 if the photo did not show a human quality but the owner attempted to "hook" it in with their title...ie; If a dead flower was photographed on the ground with the title.."Lonely in Death"
5-7 if the photo showed a human quality and was "unset-up"...ie; a photo of a tree or a household appliance that suggested a human quality without having to have an "eye" or "nose" or something else "added" to it.
IMO there is none over a 7....including MINE !
KS |
What about the ones that were "made" to appear human? Just curious.
As for the "hook" in the title, I think if it helps clarify, but doesn't depend totally on the title then it's okay. My highest votes are those that look NOTHING like a person, but still manage to convey a human characteristic. The other kind, if well done, still get a decent score though. |
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10/12/2005 10:49:59 AM · #55 |
For what it is worth department: MY OPINION!! Decided my criteria for voting:
10- Near perfect photo perfect fit for challenge
9- almost perfect photo and almost perfect fit for challenge
8- very good photo and almost perfect fit for challenge
7- good/very good photo and good/very good fit for challenge
6- good photo and fit for challenge (SLIGHTLY above average)
5- average photo and fit
4- photo below average or great pic but challenge not met IMO
3- way below average photo or good/very good pic challenge not met
2- bad pic or average pic that does not meet challenge WILL COMMENT!!
1- extremely bad pic or not even close to challenge WILL COMMENT!!
Only have given out maybe 8 1's and no tens, but this is my system. If it is not clear, the CHALLENGE should be at least the equal of the photo grading. If you do not want to follow the rules, why bother to have them? If you have them, FOLLOW them, or do not enter! Oh well, at least I feel better now!! LOL Had to post after looking at NON HUMAN LOOKING?? personifications. LOL
Jacque |
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10/12/2005 10:55:48 AM · #56 |
I hope so!!! :)
My photo made my wife want to divorce me for some reason. The least I could get would be a ribbon! :)
Votes: 54
Views: 85
Avg Vote: 5.5000
Comments: 2
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Updated: 10/12/05 10:47 am
Originally posted by kenskid:
I didn't see one to rate over a 6...including mine.
5+ will win this one IMO.
KS |
Message edited by author 2005-10-12 10:58:13.
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10/12/2005 11:07:12 AM · #57 |
I would/gave those a 3-6
KS [/quote]
What about the ones that were "made" to appear human? Just curious.
As for the "hook" in the title, I think if it helps clarify, but doesn't depend totally on the title then it's okay. My highest votes are those that look NOTHING like a person, but still manage to convey a human characteristic. The other kind, if well done, still get a decent score though. [/quote] |
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10/12/2005 11:09:04 AM · #58 |
Votes: 63
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Avg Vote: 6.2079
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Updated: 10/12/05 11:05 am
Started up then went down and now up again... sheesh! This will be a loooong week for both my challenge entries. |
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10/12/2005 11:17:22 AM · #59 |
you know, there's actually 2 challenges for every challenge...
As a:
Photog - Be creative and follow the guidelines of the challenge theme. This is usually discussed at the beginning of the challenge and everyone who participates in it (or reads it) may learn different ways of interpreting the guidelines, which helps us broaden our view of things we sometimes seem to take for granted.
Voter - interpreting what the photog is trying to convey and how the photog sees how their photo fits the challenge. By doing this, we broaden our understanding of how others' think. Not doing this leaves us stuck in our own interpretations (which may actually be wrong). (ie. Perspective challenge - my initial interpretation did not fit the guidelines/photographic definition of perspective)
IMO, DPChallenge isn't a contest, it's an attempt to broaden our view of photography and to get a better perspective of our (potential) clients (should anyone want to persue this professionally). Being narrow-minded isn't helping you and it won't help others... again, MO.
Learning something new everyday...
George |
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10/12/2005 11:23:07 AM · #60 |
| There are some shots that try to express an emotion or feeling on these the title helps show what the emotion is then reflecting on the shot If I can see that emotion depicted it should score well... I would think |
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10/12/2005 11:31:50 AM · #61 |
| well i think most people have gone totaly out of it with there personal voting systems and are not looking at the photos at all |
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10/12/2005 11:42:55 AM · #62 |
i do agree on that.
But what makes the difference between DPC and real 'contest' is the fact that the jury is 100% subjective (read: everyone has a different opinion).
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10/12/2005 11:45:04 AM · #63 |
No, I think people are looking at the photos - this is a very tough challenge to vote on as the range of opinions as to what meets the challenge is as diverse as the DPChallenge community.
Personally I'm seeing too many images with animals, people, and assembled/manipulated items to resemble human features. What happened to inanimate? That's just MY opinion, and one of MANY I'm sure. ;^)
Originally posted by polkop:
well i think most people have gone totaly out of it with there personal voting systems and are not looking at the photos at all |
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10/12/2005 11:45:43 AM · #64 |
From what we're getting so far ... I think we're all battling for the brown ... not the blue. :)
Votes: 70
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Updated: 10/12/05 11:44 am
Woo hoo! :) This means I'm getting less 1's and more 4's. LOL - You know ... you just have to laugh about it. |
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10/12/2005 12:26:31 PM · #65 |
Originally posted by rikki11:
Votes: 63
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Updated: 10/12/05 11:05 am
Started up then went down and now up again... sheesh! This will be a loooong week for both my challenge entries. |
Hey! That seems like a really good score in this challenge. I didn't think my score would change much after I went to sleep (it was a 5.400). Well...
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I was right. |
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10/12/2005 12:54:23 PM · #66 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Hey! That seems like a really good score in this challenge. I didn't think my score would change much after I went to sleep (it was a 5.400). Well...
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I was right. |
Well you've got at least two comments :) Not sure how people really view my image but from the looks of it, it seems like folks like it and it's getting a good score so far. We'll see. It's too early to tell but it seems like there's a bunch of photos that were "forced". Just my opinion as always. I'm sure my score will go down like a ton of bricks :) |
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10/12/2005 12:57:32 PM · #67 |
[quote=glad2badad] No, I think people are looking at the photos - this is a very tough challenge to vote on as the range of opinions as to what meets the challenge is as diverse as the DPChallenge community.
That may be true, but when the rules PLAINLY state "Take a photo of something non-human-looking ", all statues, dolls, humans that are the main focus, etc should AUTOMATICALLY get a 1 or 2 at BEST. If you are going to hold viable "contests", then you have to follow the rules. No matter how good the actual photo is, if the rules are not followed, why enter it?
BTW, my own entry is roller coasting too, but not to any good standard, LOL. Started out around 5, down to below 4 and now "UP" to 4.3 LOL
Left 62 comments, wonder how many emails I am going to get about them this week?? LOL
Also, ggbudge states "IMO, DPChallenge isn't a contest, it's an attempt to broaden our view of photography and to get a better perspective of our (potential) clients (should anyone want to persue this professionally). Being narrow-minded isn't helping you and it won't help others... again, MO. " I would LOVE to agree with that, except that it takes FEEDBACK for that to work. And if everyone that leaves a 1 or a 2 especially does not leave comments (which vast majority do NOT, they just do it to upset people, I think), then your assessment is not viable here. Now I understand it is difficult to do sometimes, and "bad pic" is NOT a comment that counts, but it SHOULD be done, at least with the 1's and 2's. No other way to understand why those scores are given!! Last entry of mine had only 9 comments and worst one said looks washed out. Yet over 12 UNDER 3, no reasons given. Know I should be used to it, but will never get acceptable to me. If you are going to give out that score, TELL the person WHY!! Otherwise, just skip voting on that pic!!!
Jacque
P.S. Entry also had about the same number of votes over 8, wife said I should mention that? LOL |
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10/12/2005 01:02:05 PM · #68 |
Originally posted by woutje:
I really thought I had done something pretty decent for this challenge. Not a ribbon, but maybe a top quartile finish. After browsing all the thumbnails, I also thought it was fairly unique. Oh well, what the heck do I know!!!!
Votes: 5
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Avg Vote: 3.8000
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And here I was thinkg it could be worse than my complementary colours mistake. |
I feel your pain.
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10/12/2005 01:04:43 PM · #69 |
Hey olddj, thanks for your "cute" comment ;)
Its funny, as a single word, but that clearly represents what my picture makes you 'feel' like. Interesting. |
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10/12/2005 01:09:22 PM · #70 |
Originally posted by metatate:
I hope so!!! :)
My photo made my wife want to divorce me for some reason. The least I could get would be a ribbon! :)
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Avg Vote: 5.5000
Comments: 2
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Updated: 10/12/05 10:47 am
Originally posted by kenskid:
I didn't see one to rate over a 6...including mine.
5+ will win this one IMO.
KS |
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I suspect I know which one your photo is and I should tell you that my wife and I both laughed out loud... it is just so wrong... :-) |
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10/12/2005 01:13:52 PM · #71 |
I posted one I like and I think it meets the challenge.
One comment I got totally hit ALL of the points of this pic. Color, DOF, composition and they reported giving it a 9.
One other comment was essentially DNMC.
Overall it is scoring very low. I am in no way dissapointed because I like it and I know it is a good pic. Should be high 5's probably.
Votes: 70
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10/12/2005 01:20:19 PM · #72 |
Originally posted by olddj:
[quote=glad2badad] No, I think people are looking at the photos - this is a very tough challenge to vote on as the range of opinions as to what meets the challenge is as diverse as the DPChallenge community.
That may be true, but when the rules PLAINLY state "Take a photo of something non-human-looking ", all statues, dolls, humans that are the main focus, etc should AUTOMATICALLY get a 1 or 2 at BEST. If you are going to hold viable "contests", then you have to follow the rules. No matter how good the actual photo is, if the rules are not followed, why enter it?
BTW, my own entry is roller coasting too, but not to any good standard, LOL. Started out around 5, down to below 4 and now "UP" to 4.3 LOL
Left 62 comments, wonder how many emails I am going to get about them this week?? LOL
Also, ggbudge states "IMO, DPChallenge isn't a contest, it's an attempt to broaden our view of photography and to get a better perspective of our (potential) clients (should anyone want to persue this professionally). Being narrow-minded isn't helping you and it won't help others... again, MO. " I would LOVE to agree with that, except that it takes FEEDBACK for that to work. And if everyone that leaves a 1 or a 2 especially does not leave comments (which vast majority do NOT, they just do it to upset people, I think), then your assessment is not viable here. Now I understand it is difficult to do sometimes, and "bad pic" is NOT a comment that counts, but it SHOULD be done, at least with the 1's and 2's. No other way to understand why those scores are given!! Last entry of mine had only 9 comments and worst one said looks washed out. Yet over 12 UNDER 3, no reasons given. Know I should be used to it, but will never get acceptable to me. If you are going to give out that score, TELL the person WHY!! Otherwise, just skip voting on that pic!!!
Jacque
P.S. Entry also had about the same number of votes over 8, wife said I should mention that? LOL |
I agree Totally with the manafactured images and pics of dolls ect, that said my shot is of nothing human or living but intended to get a point across and is doing poorly
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but going up so far |
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10/12/2005 01:55:17 PM · #73 |
I've only voted on 20% so far, but I had to copy the following comment, as I have pasted it into probably 10 pictures out of 40...
It captures a face, but doesn't capture a characteristic or feeling.
People just seemed to have a difficult time grasping what the challenge was all about. I did think there were a few which did a good job. I actually gave a 10 so someone out there gets it...
Climbing somewhat...
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10/12/2005 01:59:54 PM · #74 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
I've only voted on 20% so far, but I had to copy the following comment, as I have pasted it into probably 10 pictures out of 40...
It captures a face, but doesn't capture a characteristic or feeling.
People just seemed to have a difficult time grasping what the challenge was all about. I did think there were a few which did a good job. I actually gave a 10 so someone out there gets it...
Climbing somewhat...
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Avg Vote: 5.5976
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Still waiting for your comment Doc :) |
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10/12/2005 02:06:24 PM · #75 |
i didnt enter, but i'm not voting like you. isnt "capturing a face" a physical characteristic? to me it is, so i dont see what is wrong with those photos. and by face i dont mean animals, dolls, etc.
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
I've only voted on 20% so far, but I had to copy the following comment, as I have pasted it into probably 10 pictures out of 40...
It captures a face, but doesn't capture a characteristic or feeling.
People just seemed to have a difficult time grasping what the challenge was all about. I did think there were a few which did a good job. I actually gave a 10 so someone out there gets it...
Climbing somewhat...
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Avg Vote: 5.5976
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Message edited by author 2005-10-12 14:13:03.
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