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10/01/2005 11:47:02 AM · #1 |
Are gradient adjustment layers allowed in Basic Editing. The description says that adjustment layers are allowed in normal mode but since gradients affect different areas of photo differently and the rules also state that effects must be applied uniformly there seems to be some discrepency (at least in my interpretation)
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10/01/2005 11:58:17 AM · #2 |
What do you mean by a "gradient adjustment?" If you mean an adjustment, like Curves or Levels, applied through a gradient mask, then no, that's not legal for Basic, for the reason you describe. No masks are allowed in Basic.
It's a very useful effect under the Advanced rules though -- and it's part of the method I use to simulate the use of a graduated ND filter |
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10/01/2005 12:07:59 PM · #3 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
What do you mean by a "gradient adjustment?" If you mean an adjustment, like Curves or Levels, applied through a gradient mask, then no, that's not legal for Basic, for the reason you describe. No masks are allowed in Basic.
It's a very useful effect under the Advanced rules though -- and it's part of the method I use to simulate the use of a graduated ND filter |
I mean Layer--> New Adjustment Layer --> Gradient
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10/01/2005 12:24:00 PM · #4 |
| Sorry, I don't have that option available in my (older) version of Photoshop -- we'll have to wait for someone with more up-to-date info to find this thread. |
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10/01/2005 12:31:45 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by donniev:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
What do you mean by a "gradient adjustment?" If you mean an adjustment, like Curves or Levels, applied through a gradient mask, then no, that's not legal for Basic, for the reason you describe. No masks are allowed in Basic.
It's a very useful effect under the Advanced rules though -- and it's part of the method I use to simulate the use of a graduated ND filter |
I mean Layer--> New Adjustment Layer --> Gradient |
I would say it's illegal because you have to select the angle that the gradient affects the image.
Never tried this until now, but surely something I could use in the future. Thanks.
Message edited by author 2005-10-01 12:32:45.
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10/01/2005 01:10:46 PM · #6 |
I would be interested in knowing this too. I use them often, but never in basic (although there were a few times when I was dying to) because I wast't sure if they were be legal.
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10/01/2005 01:17:59 PM · #7 |
| Adjustments layers may ONLY be applied in NORMAL mode. Quote from the rules "Adjustment Layers must be applied in Normal mode. All other types of layers (including those that contain pixel data or masks) and all other blending methods (modes) are prohibited." |
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10/01/2005 01:19:20 PM · #8 |
Been playing areond for a few minutes in CS2; I assume what's being asked about is:
Layer>New Adjustment layer>Gradient Map
If so, then IMO it should be legal, if the default "normal" blending mode is not changed and it is applied uniformly over the entire image (no masking used).
Although the results can be anywhere from subtle to psychedelic, depending on the gradient chosen, so can the results of channel mixer, curves, hue/sat, etcetera.
I want to emphasize that this is my personal read on this one.
Edit:
Point of clarification... the gradient map function does not apply a gradient "across" the image, but uses the gradient as a modifieer of the tone curve.
Message edited by author 2005-10-01 15:28:06.
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10/01/2005 01:28:39 PM · #9 |
I have previously assumed it was not allowed since although they are generic default shapes they are as the name implies not uniformly applied. Part of the apeal to me of basic editting challeges is the strictly limited adjustment tools. I hope it stays that way.
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10/01/2005 01:33:44 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by kirbic:
Been playing areond for a few minutes in CS2; I assume what's being asked about is:
Layer>New Adjustment layer>Gradient Mask
If so, then IMO it should be legal, if the default "normal" blending mode is not changed and it is applied uniformly over the entire image (no masking used).
Although the results can be anywhere from subtle to psychedelic, depending on the gradient chosen, so can the results of channel mixer, curves, hue/sat, etcetera.
I want to emphasize that this is my personal read on this one. |
I thought he actually meant:
layer>new fill layer>gradient
which works kinda like a ND filter. |
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10/01/2005 02:18:30 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by cdcootie:
I have previously assumed it was not allowed since although they are generic default shapes they are as the name implies not uniformly applied. Part of the apeal to me of basic editting challeges is the strictly limited adjustment tools. I hope it stays that way. |
Unless of course you edit your image, print it out, and stick another "live" element in front of it. ;0)
Message edited by author 2005-10-01 14:18:47.
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10/01/2005 06:26:19 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by faidoi:
Originally posted by kirbic:
Been playing areond for a few minutes in CS2; I assume what's being asked about is:
Layer>New Adjustment layer>Gradient Mask
If so, then IMO it should be legal, if the default "normal" blending mode is not changed and it is applied uniformly over the entire image (no masking used).
Although the results can be anywhere from subtle to psychedelic, depending on the gradient chosen, so can the results of channel mixer, curves, hue/sat, etcetera.
I want to emphasize that this is my personal read on this one. |
I thought he actually meant:
layer>new fill layer>gradient
which works kinda like a ND filter. |
I think my confusion was that Gradient is not an adjustment layer but a fill layer. I have always ASSumed that the b/w circle on layers pallet was an "adjustment layer" but if you look at the tool tips it is both adjustment and fill.
The gradient map is an adjustment layer and since it maps grayscale values to colors that should imo be legal since the mapping is applied to the entire image.
Too bad about the gradient layer though. The radial gradient inverted did a wonderful job of highlighting the area of interst. :-) Oh well probably just trying to turn a bad image to mediocre anyway :-)
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