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 09/20/2005 10:19:26 PM · #1
Hi guys, I got a deal for the Canon powershot S1 IS (old model) for a rather good price. Yes, the camera is outdated, but do you think its still a good camera? pls, any input would be appreciated.
 09/20/2005 10:54:55 PM · #2
how much?

it's a good cam... 3.2 mp should do you fine.
09/20/2005 11:05:56 PM · #3
Originally posted by saintaugust:
how much? it's a good cam... 3.2 mp should do you fine.


yup, 3.2 mp has always been adequate for me :) the price is $160, so what do you think? is it a good bargain or something i should just pass?
 09/20/2005 11:08:49 PM · #4
buy it up.. the 10x zoom is worth it if its all working.
09/20/2005 11:12:11 PM · #5
Originally posted by saintaugust:
buy it up.. the 10x zoom is worth it if its all working.


Fast f/2.8-3.1 image stabilized. I say definitely worth it.
 09/20/2005 11:13:44 PM · #6
Originally posted by saintaugust:
buy it up.. the 10x zoom is worth it if its all working.


thanks :) I'm just a tad concerned about the pocketability. hmm... I would like to get the IXUS 50, do you think its better than the S1 IS in terms of photo resolution/quality? manual controls aside...
 09/20/2005 11:15:38 PM · #7
Originally posted by shadow:
Originally posted by saintaugust:
buy it up.. the 10x zoom is worth it if its all working.


thanks :) I'm just a tad concerned about the pocketability. hmm... I would like to get the IXUS 50, do you think its better than the S1 IS in terms of photo resolution/quality? manual controls aside...


Depends on what types of subject you enjoy taking pictures of. What features do you wish you had on the DiMAGE X31?
 09/20/2005 11:16:01 PM · #8
Originally posted by shadow:
Originally posted by saintaugust:
buy it up.. the 10x zoom is worth it if its all working.


thanks :) I'm just a tad concerned about the pocketability. hmm... I would like to get the IXUS 50, do you think its better than the S1 IS in terms of photo resolution/quality? manual controls aside...


oh you mean the powershot SD400? :-)

i don't know.. if you can get the same kind of deal for the SD400, buy it instead. otherwise, the S1 is a great bargain.
09/20/2005 11:21:46 PM · #9
Originally posted by faidoi:
Depends on what types of subject you enjoy taking pictures of. What features do you wish you had on the DiMAGE X31?


Well, I get frustrated with the slow focusing of the X31 especially in low light conditions. its weak. my ixus used to have photo assist lamp built-in, so I guess I was spoilt. The S1 IS doesnt have photo assist, so I'm not too sure if its the right direction for an upgrade?
 09/20/2005 11:24:27 PM · #10
Originally posted by saintaugust:
oh you mean the powershot SD400? :-)
i don't know.. if you can get the same kind of deal for the SD400, buy it instead. otherwise, the S1 is a great bargain.


YES! Its a beauty, isnt it? :) My past IXUS experience makes me favour the camera a lot, especially the powerful low light focusing and also the ability to do long shutter exposures, hmm, what other cameras has this capability? I've been reading a lot of reviews lately, it seems the Lumix DMC-FX series are getting very good reviews. Does those allow long exposure modes?
 09/20/2005 11:26:24 PM · #11
Originally posted by shadow:
Originally posted by saintaugust:
oh you mean the powershot SD400? :-)
i don't know.. if you can get the same kind of deal for the SD400, buy it instead. otherwise, the S1 is a great bargain.


YES! Its a beauty, isnt it? :) My past IXUS experience makes me favour the camera a lot, especially the powerful low light focusing and also the ability to do long shutter exposures, hmm, what other cameras has this capability? I've been reading a lot of reviews lately, it seems the Lumix DMC-FX series are getting very good reviews. Does those allow long exposure modes?


i know nothing of the lumix series, sorry.

doesn't the S1 have long exposure? I thought it did.
09/20/2005 11:51:06 PM · #12
Seriously, none of these cameras are what could be considered "powerful" or "good in low light conditions".

All of these cameras suffer from the same issues because they have teeny tiny sensors.

Therefore, camera performance will have some variation based on the computer controlling it within. Digital camera internals can work really hard, but the tools they have to work with do limit their abilities and results.

I would be really surprised if there was a low noise image coming out of a pocketable point and shoot at 4 or 5 seconds, let alone 20-30. Big zoom cameras often have a slightly more difficult time with issues of noise, but are a little higher end, so the processor usually works a little harder.

That having been said, I shoot an S2.

The primary difference between this camera and a smaller point and shoot really boils down to the lens, and to a lesser extent, the IS. This may allow you to shoot at a lower ISO and get slightly cleaner images handheld. The benefits are not huge when light is really low, but my S2 eats my sister's A80 for breakfast on indoor handheld snapshots.

Small P&S = 35-100mm typically.
Big P&S = 35-400mm typically.

The real question is will the different shooting range be helpful to your shooting style and desires?

For me, the answer was yes. A good 80% of my pictures are taken between 80 and 300mm 35mm equiv. Probably 50% are from 120mm to 300.

All the other issues come down to features that suit your personal needs and can't really be answered by anyone better than you yourself. If you are looking in the $160 range, I would say take what you can get and go for the S1. I didn't personally go for that camera because of the features it lacked, but I would have had to pay three times that.

At that time, I chose the S30 P&S. I have taken more pictures in 3 months with the S2 than I dd in 2 years with the S30.
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