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09/16/2005 11:02:12 AM · #1 |
| I want to buy a camera, but being from NY, the tax would be $80. Am I allowed to ship it someone in, say, PA, and have them ship it to me, to escape the tax? |
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09/16/2005 11:03:51 AM · #2 |
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09/16/2005 11:04:49 AM · #3 |
Yes.
Why are people so unwilling to pay taxes? |
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09/16/2005 11:06:10 AM · #4 |
| cos it costs money..something most people are short of! hehe |
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09/16/2005 11:08:13 AM · #5 |
Originally posted by troberge:
cos it costs money..something most people are short of! hehe |
Oh, I see...in that case you could always steal one. Same thing. |
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09/16/2005 11:08:24 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by Tom2898:
I want to buy a camera, but being from NY, the tax would be $80. Am I allowed to ship it someone in, say, PA, and have them ship it to me, to escape the tax? |
On your NYS tax form, there is a section that asks you to list all out of state purchases that you didn't pay sales tax on. So, if you fail to report something, that is tax evasion. |
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09/16/2005 11:08:49 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by Tom2898:
I want to buy a camera, but being from NY, the tax would be $80. Am I allowed to ship it someone in, say, PA, and have them ship it to me, to escape the tax? |
Only if you get caught, LOL!
My dad once said that at a public zoning meeting, "It's not illegal until you get caught."
The problem was that my dad was the County Building Inspector at the time and was quoted with picture and everything the next day, LOL! Boy did he get in trouble!
I really don't see the difference honestly, if I buy things in Montana or have my mom buy them for and send them to me here in NY.
Deannda |
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09/16/2005 11:09:03 AM · #8 |
| By the way, what part of Upstate New York are you in? |
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09/16/2005 11:09:25 AM · #9 |
| you can always say it was gift :-))) |
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09/16/2005 11:09:27 AM · #10 |
Originally posted by eqsite:
By the way, what part of Upstate New York are you in? |
Canandaigua |
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09/16/2005 11:13:46 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by Tom2898:
Originally posted by eqsite:
By the way, what part of Upstate New York are you in? |
Canandaigua |
Great town. I'm in Ithaca. Sorry to take this off-topic, but have you seen this site: Finger Lakes Photographers? It was set up by ButterflySis and we have some get togethers that we're planning. Feel free to join up if you're interested. |
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09/16/2005 11:14:03 AM · #12 |
In California it's called a "Sales and Use" tax. Even if you buy it elsewhere, if you bring it into California and use it, you are supposed to pay the tax on it.
You can avoid paying the taxes. But next time you call the police or fire department, but it takes too long to get to you to help because they are understaffed, remember why ...
When you do this, you are not stealing from a manufacturer who might be making exhorbitant profits, you are stealing from your own community -- the profits are still made. In that sense, it might be slightly more "honorable" to steal it outright than just avoid the taxes.
Message edited by author 2005-09-16 11:14:23. |
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09/16/2005 11:17:50 AM · #13 |
Originally posted by Neuferland:
I really don't see the difference honestly, if I buy things in Montana or have my mom buy them for and send them to me here in NY.
Deannda |
I am not certain about this, but I do believe that in certain states, one can purchase items and have them shipped directly out of that state to some other state or to Canada. The difference is that the customer never gets to handle the item personally so as to ensure that it is indeed forwarded out of state.
The other point to consider is that not all states have reciprocal agreements, which can result in the store charging you the tax regardless of the item's final destination point.
Lastly, there are some major companies such as DELL that will add the sales tax of the state the item is being shipped to, which in the end results in little if any savings.
If its any consolation... anytime I purchase something in the USA I get it shipped to a PO Box I have in Ogdensburg, NY, which means I get to pay the NY sales tax, and once I cross the border, I get to pay an additional 15% on the total amount, including the NY sales tax.
Happy shooting
Ray |
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09/16/2005 11:19:21 AM · #14 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
In California it's called a "Sales and Use" tax. Even if you buy it elsewhere, if you bring it into California and use it, you are supposed to pay the tax on it.
You can avoid paying the taxes. But next time you call the police or fire department, but it takes too long to get to you to help because they are understaffed, remember why ...
When you do this, you are not stealing from a manufacturer who might be making exhorbitant profits, you are stealing from your own community -- the profits are still made. In that sense, it might be slightly more "honorable" to steal it outright than just avoid the taxes. |
While you're certainly correct in this statement (it's indeed a "sales and use tax" and you are indeed required by law to report the purchase and pay the tax) I can't help but wonder how many people actually DO that when they order stuff on the internet from out of state and no tax is charged to them?
Robt.
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09/16/2005 11:21:43 AM · #15 |
Originally posted by eqsite:
Originally posted by Tom2898:
I want to buy a camera, but being from NY, the tax would be $80. Am I allowed to ship it someone in, say, PA, and have them ship it to me, to escape the tax? |
On your NYS tax form, there is a section that asks you to list all out of state purchases that you didn't pay sales tax on. So, if you fail to report something, that is tax evasion. |
The biggest reason you should just order it and have it shipped to you. People seem to forget you have to report all these puchases on your taxes at the end of the year anyway. Ebay included.
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09/16/2005 11:21:53 AM · #16 |
Originally posted by bear_music:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
In California it's called a "Sales and Use" tax. Even if you buy it elsewhere, if you bring it into California and use it, you are supposed to pay the tax on it.
You can avoid paying the taxes. But next time you call the police or fire department, but it takes too long to get to you to help because they are understaffed, remember why ...
When you do this, you are not stealing from a manufacturer who might be making exhorbitant profits, you are stealing from your own community -- the profits are still made. In that sense, it might be slightly more "honorable" to steal it outright than just avoid the taxes. |
While you're certainly correct in this statement (it's indeed a "sales and use tax" and you are indeed required by law to report the purchase and pay the tax) I can't help but wonder how many people actually DO that when they order stuff on the internet from out of state and no tax is charged to them?
Robt. |
I'm pretty sure no one, except vendors who have to file a sales-tax return anyway. But it always gives the authorities "somethng" they can arrest you for if they can't find any other excuse. |
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09/16/2005 11:27:41 AM · #17 |
| even if it's a gift? I mean, would they try to trace down your friends, see who bought it and if they payed the taxes? |
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09/16/2005 11:29:46 AM · #18 |
Originally posted by bteodorescu:
even if it's a gift? I mean, would they try to trace down your friends, see who bought it and if they payed the taxes? |
I think a couple of years ago California started enforcing paying your sales tax on internet purchase. Now most places charge you sales tax anyway. When I bought my Rebel XT from Dell they charged me sales tax.
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09/16/2005 11:31:59 AM · #19 |
| Not to mention shipping charges...by the time you pay for them and take the risk of shipping the camera twice (hopefully with some insurance on it), how much do you really save? |
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09/16/2005 11:33:24 AM · #20 |
If I buy an item online from a brick and mortar store located anywhere outside Quebec but still in Canada I save the Provincial sales tax (8%) but have to pay the 7% Federal GST, so that's a 8% savings right off the bat.
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09/16/2005 11:37:06 AM · #21 |
I just bought my 20D from B&H and there was no tax.
hehehehe....
I really I had now knowledge of the "sales and Use Tax". I guess I will just have to put it on my taxes at the end of the year, if I remember ;)
GG
Message edited by author 2005-09-16 11:37:28. |
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09/16/2005 11:39:33 AM · #22 |
| By the time you pay all the shipping costs you could have payed for the taxes. |
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09/16/2005 11:41:58 AM · #23 |
Originally posted by GreenGiant:
just have to put it on my taxes at the end of the year, if I remember ;)
GG |
Just remember what GeneralE said above:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
You can avoid paying the taxes. But next time you call the police or fire department, but it takes too long to get to you to help because they are understaffed, remember why ... |
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09/16/2005 11:43:46 AM · #24 |
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09/16/2005 11:45:51 AM · #25 |
Originally posted by DottieD:
Just do it & keep mum! |
Yeah...also, if you go to your local grocery store you'd be surprised how often the cashier gets distracted while the cash register is open. Grab a few bills and you can upgrade! Just keep mum. |
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