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09/14/2005 06:42:47 PM · #1 |
| I've been so upset about my portrait results that about 4 hours ago I was going to post the unedited version to get a dq rather than end up in last place. Well, the system was down, so I went to watch Fellowship of The Ring, and as I saw the photography, I was eased as I saw new lighting ideas, ways to present portraits, etc. Though it appears my first attempt at portraiture has been an utter failure, I have ordered a set of three portrait lights anyway, and the people at work are going to sit for me to give me a portfolio. I just redid the picture, and see I did not have to give it as much treatments and editing as I did. Well, I have 22 comments so far, and I am sure most of them are 1's and 2's but my desire for a dq has left me for now. |
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09/14/2005 06:45:25 PM · #2 |
Hang in there :) I was so excited with my submission and crushed when the numbers came in. It is my first portrait and I am learning from the comments, so my next one will be much better!
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09/14/2005 06:45:59 PM · #3 |
im confused. How would posting a uneditted version get you DQ'd? Unles syou broke the rules editting, in which case you will be DQ'd anyway.
*mind boggled* |
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09/14/2005 06:48:11 PM · #4 |
Hey, do me a favor and get mine DQd! Let me see .......... photo was taken in another dimension under a whole different set of realities. But I didn't inhale!! Really!
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09/14/2005 06:57:41 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by mesmeraj:
im confused. How would posting a uneditted version get you DQ'd? Unles syou broke the rules editting, in which case you will be DQ'd anyway.
*mind boggled* |
I "think" she means that if she posted the original version of the current entry, that it might get dq'd. I don't know if it would or not.
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09/14/2005 07:02:45 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by papagei:
Originally posted by mesmeraj:
im confused. How would posting a uneditted version get you DQ'd? Unles syou broke the rules editting, in which case you will be DQ'd anyway.
*mind boggled* |
I "think" she means that if she posted the original version of the current entry, that it might get dq'd. I don't know if it would or not. |
Nah a SC would just delete it, and send her a msg. Thats what i dont understand unless the uneditted version poves that she did not follow the editting rules that is... |
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09/14/2005 07:54:12 PM · #7 |
If you have not had a DQ in your last 25 entries, you may request a "Self-DQ" on an image -- click on your own image on the voting thmbs page and use the link to ask, as if you wanted a validation note.
However, if you do this, another DQ in the next 25 entries will still get you a suspension, so consider carefully whether a lower-than-desirable score is worth the risk ... |
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09/14/2005 09:41:13 PM · #8 |
Yeh, what the General said. And to add, a few peeps who have done the "self-DQ thang" have later wished they would have just taken the lump and learned from it.
I almost did it earlier inthe year, then took a day away and realized it's not the score that counts.
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09/14/2005 10:29:00 PM · #9 |
I took a self-DQ in the Triangle challenge, and I'm glad I did. It was scoring about 3.8 if memory serves. Looking back I feel I made a mistake by entering it. I was worried about going 25 challenges without tossing in another clunker. But it has turned out to be a bit of a motivator. I am being more careful about what I enter and my scores have been higher as a result. Kinda makes you pay a little closer attention when you know you don't have that cushion available.
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09/14/2005 10:35:11 PM · #10 |
Well, I got what I wished for. Thought I'd throw something into this challenge so I can recapture the joy of the update button but found myself moreso disappointed than excited. Admittedly, my image was a feeble entry and have now withdrawn as to not waste voter's efforts. What have I learned? Its better to watch on the sidelines than to get in the game when you really have no intention of breaking a sweat. Good luck to all who have entered and please do not think any less of me than you already do. ;-)
Message edited by author 2005-09-14 22:36:00. |
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09/14/2005 11:03:15 PM · #11 |
| Hmmmm....In the same boat. The only reason I entered, its the 1st time doing real portrait with lighting set up and learned something interesting about effects of different lighting. It took me a couple days searching the net to find the reason why it happened. I alway play by the rules so the suspension is not an issue. If I DQ myself can I post the image and share what I learned? |
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09/14/2005 11:12:00 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by ace flyman:
Hmmmm....In the same boat. The only reason I entered, its the 1st time doing real portrait with lighting set up and learned something interesting about effects of different lighting. It took me a couple days searching the net to find the reason why it happened. I alway play by the rules so the suspension is not an issue. If I DQ myself can I post the image and share what I learned? |
Cant see why not. But why would you post it here if you didn't want to leave it posted in the challenge? You know what you've learned and now by sharing, we'll all get an edge on your next time. ;-) |
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09/14/2005 11:16:23 PM · #13 |
Ivo - I think your pictures are pretty good for a 6 year old ;)
(just saw your profile...hahahaha)
Hang in there and have fun. This was my first challenge as well and I've got lots of work to do :)
Take it easy,
Dave
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09/14/2005 11:18:52 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by coolhar:
I took a self-DQ in the Triangle challenge, and I'm glad I did. It was scoring about 3.8 if memory serves. Looking back I feel I made a mistake by entering it. I was worried about going 25 challenges without tossing in another clunker. But it has turned out to be a bit of a motivator. I am being more careful about what I enter and my scores have been higher as a result. Kinda makes you pay a little closer attention when you know you don't have that cushion available. |
Same here.. I took a self-DQ in Decisions.. it was doing a 4.4, but I really liked that photograph and couldnt bear to see it being trashed for being off-topic. Learnt my lesson - no more such entries.
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09/14/2005 11:19:58 PM · #15 |
OH MY!!! We're all coming out of the closet. I LOVE YOU GUYS!!
Group hug! |
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09/14/2005 11:22:36 PM · #16 |
| I just do my best to make sure there's a left side to the bell curve ... : ) |
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09/14/2005 11:36:37 PM · #17 |
Cant see why not. But why would you post it here if you didn't want to leave it posted in the challenge? You know what you've learned and now by sharing, we'll all get an edge on your next time. ;-) [/quote]text
I see what you saying, I̢۪m very competitive. (Trust me you don̢۪t need an edge on me.) The main reason, I told my model I didn̢۪t enter because of the issue. But decided to enter to prove a point about processing, I did over process a couple of area̢۪s to enhance the effect that happened naturally do to the lighting situation. 2nd I see this site as a competition but also a community who feeds and learns from each other. |
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09/14/2005 11:45:55 PM · #18 |
ladymonarda,
Why would you want to self DQ? WHO CARES if your getting a crappy score. GUESS WHAT? I'm sure it's happened to a lot of people on this site....you know; now that I think about it I'm not doing so hot in the portrait challenge....BIG DEAL! Don't let it bring you down. ;)
When I'm getting bent on people's votes / comments I just tell myself. Votes / Opinions are like a$$holes, everyone̢۪s got them.
Hang in there girl and keep your chin up!
Message edited by author 2005-09-14 23:46:46.
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09/14/2005 11:52:28 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by ace flyman:
... But decided to enter to prove a point about processing, I did over process a couple of area̢۪s to enhance the effect that happened naturally do to the lighting situation. 2nd I see this site as a competition but also a community who feeds and learns from each other. |
Sounds like you entered my photo ... for the same reasons. |
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09/15/2005 12:14:53 AM · #20 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by ace flyman:
... But decided to enter to prove a point about processing, I did over process a couple of area̢۪s to enhance the effect that happened naturally do to the lighting situation. 2nd I see this site as a competition but also a community who feeds and learns from each other. |
Sounds like you entered my photo ... for the same reasons. |
Kinda funny, score doesn't bother me. The shot I entered for the Branch challenge was to prove a point that we take the challenge descriptions to literally. I didn't make a point of it on the forums, it was satisfying just doing it.
This challenge is different, because the model follows my work and I don't want her to be embarrassed do to my many petty issues.
I decided to DQ myself, but going to wait until the challenge is over to post the shot and original.
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09/15/2005 12:25:46 AM · #21 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
However, if you do this, another DQ in the next 25 entries will still get you a suspension, so consider carefully whether a lower-than-desirable score is worth the risk ... |
I did not think the rule was to be able to dump your lowest scores. I thought it was to catch the cheaters
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09/15/2005 12:29:27 AM · #22 |
Originally posted by Riggs:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
However, if you do this, another DQ in the next 25 entries will still get you a suspension, so consider carefully whether a lower-than-desirable score is worth the risk ... |
I did not think the rule was to be able to dump your lowest scores. I thought it was to catch the cheaters |
The "self-DQ" rule specifically states that you may make this request for any reason, and basically is there to let people "take a mulligan" on an entry they regret entering.
No problem -- I hid your duplicate posts : )
Message edited by author 2005-09-15 00:33:23. |
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09/15/2005 12:31:07 AM · #23 |
Okay, no problem Paul, I wont dare try to quote you again....I may have another triple post. :)
Someone took care of my mess....thanks.
Message edited by author 2005-09-15 00:32:25. |
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09/15/2005 11:09:57 AM · #24 |
| Thanks for all the support. The reason why I wanted to post my unedited version is to show that I started out with a sharp image, but I had to opt for adding a blur to the image because the skin was very uneven, big pores and lots of lines. Anyway, my discovery upon redoing the image was that I could have blurred the skin only and gotten a very good image. It took me about 4 hours of doing and redoing my submission, but when I redid it, it took me 10 minutes and it came out better. So what I have learned is that when you begin editing something you have never done before, the first attempt teaches you shortcuts to apply. But you can't know that without going through a monolithic editing procedure in the first place. I had plenty of time to redo the image before submission but I was so happy with how I took a less than perfect subject and gave it a beauty it did not previously have, that I blinded myself to problems which you all have pointed out. Once again, thankyou and I can now say I learned alot and can apply it in the future. |
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