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11/08/2002 04:05:36 PM · #1 |
i use a paintshop filter called clarify on a lot of my pictures, and i'm curious as to whether or not it would legal to submit such a photo to this site. i'm not sure exactly what it does, but it's more or less analagous to a histogram adjustment and a sharpen. i think. and it only works on the whole image.
is anyone familiar with this function, or know whether or not it's allowed? |
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11/08/2002 06:15:28 PM · #2 |
| if it's sharpening and performing a brightness/contrast transformation it's fine. |
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11/08/2002 09:24:23 PM · #3 |
If it's a filter (that is, found under the filters menu), it is not legal under the current rules.
The current rules state, "no filters (or non-Photoshop equivalent) maybe be applied to your image with the exception of sharpen and despeckle, the two of which are allowed."
-Terry
* This message has been edited by the author on 11/8/2002 9:22:08 PM.
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11/08/2002 09:47:31 PM · #4 |
| This sounds like it could be a "non-Photoshop equivalent" to the Sharpen function. If its purpose is to make the photo look more "realistic" as opposed to applying a special effect, I'd be inclined to vote to allow it myself. Maybe you should ask to submit with/without examples of something similar to your entry. |
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11/08/2002 09:57:18 PM · #5 |
I just read the Help file in PSP about Clarify:
"The Clarify command makes an image look more crisp and focused so that objects stand out ...The Sharpen, Sharpen More, Edge Enhance, Edge Enhance More, and Unsharp Mask effects can make the edges of an image appear sharper. However, these other effects do not add the same sense of depth and clarity as the Clarify effect."
Sounds OK to me. I hadn't spotted this command before.
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11/09/2002 12:04:16 AM · #6 |
From what I have read and seen, it seems that it combines contrast, unsharp mask and brightness adjustments. I have compared it to manually adjusting the aforementioned items and with work ended up with the same outcome. This just seems to make it easier but less controlled.
I too would like to get official word on if it is "legal" to use or not.
* This message has been edited by the author on 11/9/2002 12:01:50 AM. |
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11/09/2002 09:04:25 AM · #7 |
The official word is that it is not legal now, but most likely will be legal when the next version of the rules is released.
-Terry
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11/09/2002 11:35:18 AM · #8 |
Why would it not be legal? it's just a combination of three thigns which are already legal (contrast, sharpen, brightness)
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
The official word is that it is not legal now, but most likely will be legal when the next version of the rules is released.
-Terry
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11/09/2002 12:02:02 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by paganini:
Why would it not be legal? it's just a combination of three thigns which are already legal (contrast, sharpen, brightness)
While the help on this filter says that it performs a substantially similar function as those commands, it does not state whether it uses only those three methods, or whether the filter does any slection when applying the effects. Under current site rules, use of ANY filter other than the ones specifically allowed is illegal (though we have taken the official position that we will allow image cleanup using NeatImage).
The latest draft of the new rules includes a provision to allow "any filter or stand-alone utility designed and used to preserve the integrity of the image and/or reduce the effects of noise, scratches, etc, are permitted. These include but are not limited to the Sharpen, Unsharp Mask, and Dust & Scratches filters, and standalone image cleanup utilities such as NeatImage." Under those rules, clarify would be legal; however that revision is not ready to go live.
Any DQ requests would be handled under the current rules; which means that any use of clarify would be illegal.
-Terry
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11/09/2002 05:50:56 PM · #10 |
| ok. thanks for the info. i'll be sure not to use it any submissions. |
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11/09/2002 08:00:30 PM · #11 |
Clarify is with Paint Shop Pro 7 and I would say that it is not legal because it is not a sharpen filter. I haven̢۪t used it for that reason. I have both programs Paint Shop Pro 7 and Photoshop Elements. There are also some other filters that I won̢۪t use to soften an image just because it is not despeckle. I̢۪ll say once again we need to open up the rules on editing so there won̢۪t be confusion on what we can use or have the rules down in black and white showing each and every filter or blend mode or whatever there is to edit an image.
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12/05/2002 03:44:33 AM · #12 |
ok, so NOW is this filter [clarify] legal?
actually, here's a list of filters i'd like clarification one way or another on, in paint shop pro:
clarify
fade correction
manual color correction (i imagine this would be legal)
various other blurs (motion blur, etc)
edge enhancements (dilate, erode, etc)
edge+texture preserving smooths
jpeg artifact removal
and neatimage is perfectly legal now, right?
Message edited by author 2002-12-05 03:49:51.
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