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09/11/2005 08:36:47 AM · #1 |
My original web provider provided an online web builder with every subscription. I found that by putting a transparent GIF over my pictures I could keep people from easily stealing copies of their wedding/birthday/whatever photos that I was trying to sell them.
Currently I have a site set up with FrontPage and I'll be darned if I can figure out how to create a transparent GIF with that - or with PhotoShop either.
So here are my questions -
1) Am I deluding myself about T.G.'s keeping my pictures secure?
2) Can someone point me towards an online tutorial on making a T.G.?
3) Can someone just send me a copy of a T.G.? (Email address mikasiphotography@lycos.com)
Many thanks for all your help.
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09/11/2005 08:51:11 AM · #2 |
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09/11/2005 08:54:55 AM · #3 |
ganking = downloading, most often with a right mouse button click and a "save picture" type command. Sorry for being silly here.
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09/11/2005 08:57:36 AM · #4 |
even with putting a transparent gif over top, it doesnt stop most people. in firefox you can download all the pics on a page just by going to "page info" in the right click menu. and for the more savvy you can view source and just find the underlying pictures url.
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09/11/2005 08:58:21 AM · #5 |
To make a transparent gif in photoshop, create a canvas with just one colour, then go to File>Save for Web. In the dropdown box on the right select GIF then make sure you have transparency enabled by checking one of the buttons. You can then use the colour pallette displayed (which should only have 1 colour) to select which colour you want to make transparent.
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09/11/2005 08:59:57 AM · #6 |
Friend of mine a few years ago had some script for building into your page that actually disabled right clicking and brought up a copyright notice instead. But damnit i can't remeber who or find the copy of the code.
Anyone heard of this or seen it?
M. |
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09/11/2005 09:01:12 AM · #7 |
| I was being sarcastic actually... |
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09/11/2005 09:01:32 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by marklovell:
Friend of mine a few years ago had some script for building into your page that actually disabled right clicking and brought up a copyright notice instead. But damnit i can't remeber who or find the copy of the code.
Anyone heard of this or seen it?
M. |
i have seen it, but it doesnt stop you from looking at the pages source code by using the menu bar. so it just stops lazy thieves.
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09/11/2005 09:01:59 AM · #9 |
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09/11/2005 09:02:39 AM · #10 |
What a clever idea! Although it may not stop Firefox folks, there are plenty of other users that may be thwarted.
I've just made one & will upload it to you.
In PS, all I did was: new file, size = 1 x 1 pixel (I'm assuming you can just stretch this to whatever size you want), background=transparent. WHen it opened, I saved it as a "Compuserve (.gif)". I'll upload it in case you're unable to do that. |
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09/11/2005 09:03:51 AM · #11 |
I don't think this will help. However, there seems to be some type of application/formats for photos on line that scrambled the file and not viewable after it's downloaded. I have like a few shots before and wanted to download them for my own viewing and for study. When I did and then opened up the file, it was corrupted.
I can never say how this happened, perhaps, gives you some ideas and or alternative avenues to help you along. I wished I knew how this was done.
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09/11/2005 09:09:54 AM · #12 |
Hmmm. I uploaded the file as promised but it seems that it won't load in here. I'm also having trouble actually showing it - now sure why.
If you still want it after reading the others' posts, just pm me & I'll send it to you. I have nothing to say about whether it's the right way to go (I really don't have the experience to speak to that), but I'm happy to send you the file if you still want it. |
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09/11/2005 09:12:33 AM · #13 |
[quote=Konador] How to disable right click
With this "Disable right mouse click script".....true, right click was disabled. However, I was still able to drag and drop one the Gif's to my desktop and view it in Preview.
I suggest to add a watermark over your images....I know, those are hideous. But it works for me. I'm apt to not download that photo because of the watermark. That's my first feeling I get.
Message edited by author 2005-09-11 09:19:14.
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09/11/2005 09:13:49 AM · #14 |
Originally posted by Bebe:
I'm having trouble actually showing it - not sure why.
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Did you say it was transparent? lol |
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09/11/2005 09:31:29 AM · #15 |
Maybe you are going about it the wrong way.
What if you offered a subscription service where your customers could purchase high-res downloads?
To encourage everyone to pay up, you could set up a "Hall of Shame" gallery on your site. Make sure to fill it up with terribly embarassing shots of your customers. Then when they subscribe for the downloads they may opt to get the ugly pictures removed.
OK, I guess that's blackmail; and not especially helpful. Hope you find a solution. |
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09/11/2005 09:34:54 AM · #16 |
| You can always mark them with //www.breezesys.com/ |
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09/11/2005 09:40:34 AM · #17 |
Why not just put a very light copyright notice directly on the image, say at 15% opacity? Place it where it won't lessen the impact of the photo but would make it worthless to 'steal'.
Originally posted by mikasi:
My original web provider provided an online web builder with every subscription. I found that by putting a transparent GIF over my pictures I could keep people from easily stealing copies of their wedding/birthday/whatever photos that I was trying to sell them.
Currently I have a site set up with FrontPage and I'll be darned if I can figure out how to create a transparent GIF with that - or with PhotoShop either.
So here are my questions -
1) Am I deluding myself about T.G.'s keeping my pictures secure?
2) Can someone point me towards an online tutorial on making a T.G.?
3) Can someone just send me a copy of a T.G.? (Email address mikasiphotography@lycos.com)
Many thanks for all your help. |
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09/11/2005 09:45:53 AM · #18 |
This issue comes up a lot. Is there a reason that pro-photographers don't just include a LR proof disc or gallery to their customers?
I would just include the price for this in the package and set up a service to purchase prints from my website. That way, they wouldn't be "ganking" because they already bought the LR images.
It seems that if they had easy access to the proofs, they might be more inclined to purchase prints or HR downloads.
Message edited by author 2005-09-11 09:46:38. |
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09/11/2005 10:34:24 AM · #19 |
Originally posted by longlivenyhc:
Originally posted by marklovell:
Friend of mine a few years ago had some script for building into your page that actually disabled right clicking and brought up a copyright notice instead. But damnit i can't remeber who or find the copy of the code.
Anyone heard of this or seen it?
M. |
i have seen it, but it doesnt stop you from looking at the pages source code by using the menu bar. so it just stops lazy thieves. |
And it only worked in IE. In Netscape you'd get the message but would be allowed to save the image anyway.
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09/11/2005 10:48:11 AM · #20 |
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10/01/2005 04:44:41 PM · #21 |
thumb the images in a main page...
then add an onclick to open them in another window (tell them that this will happen)...
using either CSS, JS or HTML (would post but im sleepy and i cant remeber the code right now - will add it later) disable all window-bars, menus and allowences...
which stops them from r-clicking or going file save or using firefox auto-dl... (as there are no menus)
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windows can also be sized to the image, and with more JS, CSS or HTML you can reuse the same external window for each image, which just loads over the last one...
or flash works just as well... tho a little hard to do for a lot of images
hope this helps |
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10/13/2005 10:30:45 PM · #22 |
not to kick a dead thread - but F.Y.I. - There's no real safe way to keep pics from being stolen from the internet. No matter what you do to your picture, it can still be ganked by pushing the "print screen" button and then going into Paint and then pasting. water-marks/transparencies/etc. are all "layers" and can be removed, and www.whatever.com at the bottom can be clipped out.
If you can find a sure-fire solution - let me in on it!! I'll pay you!! |
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10/17/2005 11:57:35 AM · #23 |
The idea you can show people things on the internet and not let them keep them is nonsensical. If i've already downloaded something, i'll be damned if some "feature" of my own software will prevent me from doing what i like with it. Most people find right-click blocking scripts are nothing but a nuisance, and extremely childish. There's a lot more use to the right half of my mouse than just for stealing your precious images, you know! :) Often people will find it's easier just to stop viewing the site altogether, than it is to click through a couple of menus to disable javascript. The only way to control what someone has access to, is by controlling what you send over the wire to them in the first place.
Anyway, why exactly would you want to prevent your customers from downloading low-res versions of your images? Are you really afraid your customers would rather print pixellated inkjet 4x6 copies of your work rather than buying properly done prints?
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10/17/2005 12:00:05 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by totaldis:
use swf/flash |
Great way to turn people away from the site before they even see the images - that'll definitely prevent theft :) Although i must say, i used to routinely decompile flash whenever there were any resources i fancied.
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10/29/2005 09:47:55 PM · #25 |
If any photo is visible on your screen, it is in "cache" somewhere on your computer and can be found if you know what you are doing. No amount of anti-right click code or transparent gifs can get around this fact. It is a fact of the internet.
Why are you concerned about this? If you are trying to sell people prints of the photos which you are showing proofs of online, what is the big deal? On my site I put a small copyright notice on the photos but I know it will not keep people from downloading them. Just make sure that the pictures you put on your website are the right size for web viewing only. I have seen some people that do not know what they are doing who actually put the original file on the webpage, but use the web authoring program to resize them as they are being viewed on the page. That is crazy because it causes wayyyyyy to long for a page to load, and leaves the whole file there to be stolen.
If you resize the photo for web use, say 400 x 600 pixels, there is no way anyone can make a decent print from it. So what is your concern?
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