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09/09/2005 05:11:28 AM · #26 |
Originally posted by jab119:
I have a question for those who live in countries where your government has a very hight tax on your fuel cost.
1. Why does your government tax you so much on gas?
2. What benefit do you gain from being taxed so much on gas and everything else they tax you for?
im just curious as to why, Im not trying to start some heated argument. I dont understand and I want to know more.
James |
In the UK, the given reason for the tax rise was a 10 year application of a "fuel duty escalator", annually increasing duty significantly over inflation for the environmental purpose of encouraging lower consumption (ie greater use of more efficient cars and greater use of public transport, part subsidised by the duty rises).
The escalator was suspended in 2000 when fuel protesters blockaded refineries because of the high price of petrol - something that is being threatened again now unless the government reduce the level of duty on fuel.
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09/09/2005 05:18:40 AM · #27 |
You think you guys got it bad in the US!
The UK is now on £1 per LITRE - thats about £4 per US Gallon, the equivalent of around $7.32US! (if I got my conversions right!)
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09/09/2005 05:42:09 AM · #28 |
Big al,
I saw on the news the other morning and many garages are ordering new price totem signs so they can put the extra 1 on it to charge over the £1 mark.
Just had a look at that web site about petrol margins - its interesting how little the taxes are per gallon and how much the pump price is.
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09/09/2005 05:56:31 AM · #29 |
Yea and its election year as well and none of the blighters are prepared to help the motorist. they just fudge around the issue of petrol taxes.Originally posted by rayz1:
Originally posted by jab119:
I have a question for those who live in countries where your government has a very hight tax on your fuel cost.
1. Why does your government tax you so much on gas?
2. What benefit do you gain from being taxed so much on gas and everything else they tax you for?
im just curious as to why, Im not trying to start some heated argument. I dont understand and I want to know more.
James |
Here (NZ) i think they tax so much because they can, I havent heard of a Govt anywhere who truly believe they are accountable to the people,
Thee claim here is that the taxes go to road boards, hospitals etc anything transport related, the reality is that it is syphoned off to anything else they feel like.
I dont know about other countries but here in NZ the general beleif is that politics is the home of the failed lawyers accountants and schoolteachers, ie all those who cannot make an honest living elsewhere,
a large proportion of our politicians come from those 3 groups, any honest ones soon get corrupted by the system |
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09/09/2005 07:22:33 AM · #30 |
here in Iceland the price of gas has risen in the last month more than ever before, now we have to pay almost $8 pr gallon, that is $2 pr liter.
and it's all the fault of the US goverment, you have reserves that would last the USA for at least 1 year if ALL oil refinery would stop, so even if everything would shut down for a few months oilprices should not rise until the reserve was almost finished.
to not use the reserves is stupid, the goverment pretend that it doesn't exist, or is for "emergency" only.. if the damage caused by Katrina is NOT emergency then what is ?
I think you should elect a new presidend.. one that didn't fry his brain on crack in college ;) |
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09/09/2005 07:26:29 AM · #31 |
Don't know why they are doing that - the EU Regs allow sales of liquid products in excess of £1 to be sold to the nearest penny, not tenth. Easier to move the decimal point than add a number on the side, I should think.
I bought some petrol in the Lakes for £1.20/litre from a 50 year old pump (with attendant) - strange that it is only the modern pumps that have this problem!
Originally posted by benhur:
Big al,
I saw on the news the other morning and many garages are ordering new price totem signs so they can put the extra 1 on it to charge over the £1 mark.
Just had a look at that web site about petrol margins - its interesting how little the taxes are per gallon and how much the pump price is. |
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09/09/2005 10:50:03 AM · #32 |
Originally posted by DanSig:
and it's all the fault of the US goverment, you have reserves that would last the USA for at least 1 year if ALL oil refinery would stop, so even if everything would shut down for a few months oilprices should not rise until the reserve was almost finished.
to not use the reserves is stupid, the goverment pretend that it doesn't exist, or is for "emergency" only.. if the damage caused by Katrina is NOT emergency then what is ?
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Not sure where you are getting your information from. The current reserve has enough for only a whopping 59 days. (Click Here) |
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09/09/2005 11:43:52 AM · #33 |
| all the talk about paying $8 in iceland, england, or where ever is irrelevant. you can not compare straight prices and have any meaning without factoring in buying power. |
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09/09/2005 11:56:26 AM · #34 |
Originally posted by nborton:
all the talk about paying $8 in iceland, england, or where ever is irrelevant. you can not compare straight prices and have any meaning without factoring in buying power. |
It is alway, as ever, tax that causes the difference.
Some countries tax high for a number of reasons, including environmental reasons, and the US does not. Oil is a traded commodity at supply level and the multi-national corporations and conglomerates will buy at a price at supra-national level. The only expense related to nationality is down to supply costs. The US is a lot further away from the Middle East than Iceland...
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