"Color Portrait" vagueness... - DPChallenge Forums

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6

09/08/2005 04:39:01 PM · #7

Originally posted by Philos31:

So does that mean that if I send in a photo of let's say, a beautifull sunset, but it's shot in Portrait (so tilted 90 degrees) then it's a color portrait.

Now i'm confused....

Oh my gosh! I am so glad this came up! How could I have missed the point of the challenge?
Now I understand, we're using this challenge to learn how to rotate our pictures! What a relief that I found this out now!

(And the switch to people reading only the description instead of only the challenge title--that's quite the turn of events for this site!)

cools98

Canon EOS R5 Mark II

Canon RF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS USM

09/08/2005 04:42:25 PM · #8

If I'm not mistaken, the fact that is a portrait challenge, has nothing to do with the orientation of the photo. The fact that the description says it needs to be in color, no sepia, duotone, b/w, etc, is to clarify that they want you to focus on setting up a good portrait with balanced, complementary colors.

Artyste

Sony Ericsson W810i

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Pentax

09/08/2005 04:43:25 PM · #9

Only on DPC could people question if a portrait *has* to be in portrait orientation.

Seriously.

What a motherlovin' joke :)

joebok

Fujifilm X100F

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom Nikkor 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6G IF-ED

09/08/2005 04:48:59 PM · #10

Your submission must be in color (no B&W, duotones, sepia, etc.)

That is not vague at all. You must have more than two colors, no sepia pixels and either some black pixels or some white pixels, or no black or white, but not both.

kyebosh

Canon EOS-20D

Canon EF 80-200mm f/2.8L

09/08/2005 04:49:43 PM · #11

yeah what's wrong with ya'll? It's a portrait challenge not a portrait layout challenge.

rex

Canon PowerShot SD780

09/08/2005 04:53:11 PM · #12

It is a shame I used Kevin RIgg's lense two days before this challenge. I really liked that lense.

Not saying they are great. These are straight from the camera. I guess this is a good reason to buy a lense.

Message edited by author 2005-09-08 16:55:16.

mandyturner

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

09/08/2005 04:58:24 PM · #13

I am basically going to be looking for a color portrait of a person. When I hear the name "portrait", I do not think of animals or flowers, or woodies, etc. I know that it doesn't say it has to be people, but that is what I will be expecting. Not that I would down-vote a kitten portrait, but I would prefer to see people.

loriprophoto

Canon EOS-20D

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L USM

09/08/2005 05:13:37 PM · #14

If they wanted it exclusively for people portraits the challenge would have specified "People Portrait" or "Portrait of a Person". This is silly as I am sure a great number of photographers on this site deal exclusively with animals, the same as there are photographers who photograph people exclusively. It would be a bit stupid if I had to say that I am going to expect the whole challenge to have portraits of animals and if there are any of people then I am going to mark them down or be dissappointed??? Come on people lets get real here.

menardmam

Canon EOS-30D

Canon EF 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 DO IS USM

09/08/2005 05:40:39 PM · #15

I agree...

Your submission must be in color (no B&W, duotones, sepia, etc.)

That is not vague at all. You must have more than two colors, no sepia pixels and either some black pixels or some white pixels, or no black or white, but not both.

And I add that the horizontal size must be smaller that the vertical side... (portrait orientation) that is what i understand and the way i will rate...

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

09/08/2005 05:43:41 PM · #16

If y'all are gonna bicker over the "meaning" of "portrait", sheesh. I'd be just about 100% positive that what the challenge framers had in mind was actual "portraits" in the classic sense. I'd be 100% sure they DIDN'T have in mind portrait vs. landscape orientation.

I'd be 100% sure the VOTERS will look less favorably on any shot that doesn't feature a person, but probably will tolerate to some extent a portrait of, say, a pet or other animal.

BUT, for what it's worth, I googled "define: portrait" and come up with the following: have fun, everyone :-)

# a painting of a person's face
# portrayal: a word picture of a person's appearance and character
# any likeness of a person; "the photographer made excellent portraits"
//www.wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

# A portrait is a painting, photograph, or other artistic representation of a person. Portraits are often simple "head shots" and are not usually overly elaborate or creative. The intent is to show the basic appearance of the person, and occasionally some artistic insight into his or her personality.
//www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portrait

# Portrait is the fifth album by American pop group The 5th Dimension, released in 1970 (see 1970 in music).
//www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portrait_(album)

# an upright image or page where the height is greater than the width.
//www.adpc.purdue.edu/PhysFac/prnt/glossary/glosp.htm

# The orientation of a page in which the longest dimension is vertical.
//www.homeandoffice.hp.com/hho/cache/807-0-0-225-121.html

# A page whose width is shorter than its height.
//www.gtscompanies.com/printp_z.html

# description of a format which is deeper than it is wide.
//www.osi.hu/cpd/resources/paglossary.htm

# vertical page orientation
//www.linnbenton.edu/printingservices/Glossary.html

# The orientation of a page in which the paper is taller than it is wide (the pages in this magazine are printed in a portrait orientation).
//www.atarimagazines.com/startv3n12/desktoppublish.html

# a portrait is an accurate likeness of a specific person or people. Sometimes a portrait can tell about the personality of that person.
//www.umfa.utah.edu/

# For printing, the orientation of the lines of type or the top of an illustration parallel to the short edge of the paper.
//www.board-web.lausd.k12.ca.us/help/glossary.htm

# A painting, drawing, sculpture, photograph, or other representation of a real person, living or dead, especially of the face. An artist who specializes in portraits is known as a portraitist.
//www.artsmia.org/art_in_america/glossary.html

# a representation of a person or group or animal on a two-dimensional medium that typically also shows some aspect symbolic of the subject.
//www.worldimages.com/art_glossary.php

# An image of a particular person.
//www.ncmoa.org/matisse/lessons/glossary.html

# a type subject matter for a work of art where the artist focuses on representing the likeness of an individual (examples: Jan van Eyck's "Arnolfini Wedding," Piero della Francesca's portraits of Battista Sforza and Federigo da Montefeltro or Leonardo's Mona Lisa).
//www.bergerfoundation.ch/glossaire/italie/glossaire.html

# A picture of a person or persons that captures their likeness, especially their face. (See Portrait photography.)
//www.photographytips.com/page.cfm/2062

# A shawl collar that wraps the shoulders.
//www.weddingchannel.com/ui/buildArticle.action

# Refers to a page or image that is taller than wide.
//www.quillandmouse.com/qm_glossary.htm

# A painting, photograph, drawing, etc. of a person, especially of his or her face, usually made from life.
//www.albanyinstitute.org/resources/Hudson%20River%20School/hrs.glossary.htm

# subject matter category in which the main purpose of the art work is to communicate a likeness of an individual or group of individuals
//www.ket.org/artstoolkit/varts/glossary.htm

# a painting of a real (rather than imaginary) person.
//www.channel4.com/learning/main/netnotes/sersecid784.htm

# a page format that has greater height than width; page layout in vertical format.
//www.sgia.org/glossary/Pp.cfm

# a picture (as a painting or photograph) of a person, usually showing the face.
//www.library.thinkquest.org/6275/Glossary.html

# An upright, oblong artwork or photograph where vertical dimension is greater than the horizontal.
//www.lithosphere.co.uk/content/glossary.htm

# A page or screen orientation that is taller than it is wide.
//www.multiplemonitors.org/Pages%20-%20about%20MMI/MMI%20-%20glossary.html

# a crafted image to reveal character.
//www.ffotogallery.org/th-edu/glossary.htm

# Artwork depicting a specific person or group of people. Also used to describe a vertically oriented rectangle; opposite of landscape.
//www.artorg.org/content/ArtTerms.htm

# is a work of art that represents a specific person, a group of people. Portraits show us what a person looks like as well as revealing something about the subjectâ��s personality. A portrait can be 3 dimensional (sculpture) or two-dimensional (painting).

(giggles wickedly....)

R.

Message edited by author 2005-09-08 17:46:22.

rjkstesch

Nikon D700

09/08/2005 05:48:28 PM · #17

Bear, You have too much time on your hands. Yikes!

rex

Canon PowerShot SD780

09/08/2005 05:49:59 PM · #18

Bear you linkies don't worky for me.

09/08/2005 06:04:26 PM · #19

Originally posted by rex:

Bear you linkies don't worky for me.

Forget the linkiies, they were weird in the cut 'n paste; just google "define: portrait" and see the originals...

R.

09/08/2005 06:07:01 PM · #20

Originally posted by rjkstesch:

Bear, You have too much time on your hands. Yikes!

Dude, this took me 30 seconds. Try it yourself, it's a terrific google feature. Type "define: whatever-your-word-or-phrase-is" and submit, and watch what pops out.

Definitions of ridiculous on the Web:

* pathetic: inspiring scornful pity; "how silly an ardent and unsuccessful wooer can be especially if he is getting on in years"- Dashiell Hammett
* absurd: completely devoid of wisdom or good sense; "the absurd excuse that the dog ate his homework"; "that's a cockeyed idea"; "ask a nonsensical question and get a nonsensical answer"; "a contribution so small as to be laughable"; "it is ludicrous to call a cottage a mansion"; "a preposterous attempt to turn back the pages of history"; "her conceited assumption of universal interest in her rather dull children was ridiculous"
* farcical: broadly or extravagantly humorous; resembling farce; "the wild farcical exuberance of a clown"; "ludicrous green hair"
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

* Ridiculous is derived from the Latin word "ridere", which means "to laugh."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ridiculous

Robt.

KaDi

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6

09/08/2005 06:26:40 PM · #21

Wow! bear_music is right! It even works for "sarcasm"!

Originally posted by KaDi:

# witty language used to convey insults or scorn; "he used sarcasm to upset his opponent"; "irony is wasted on the stupid"; "Satire is a sort of glass, wherein beholders do generally discover everybody's face but their own"--Johathan Swift
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

# Sarcasm is the making of remarks intended to mock the person referred to (who is normally the person addressed), a situation or thing. It is often used in a humorous manner and expressed through particular vocal intonations. This is often done by simply over-emphasizing the actual statement, or particular words of it.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm

# A taunting, sneering, cutting or caustic remark, generally ironic; made with the intention of belittling, hurting or ridiculing an individual or an idea. "She had lost the art of conversation, but not, unfortunately, the power of speech." â�� George Bernard Shaw
//www.pbs.org/weta/onstage/twain/glossary.html

# A form of verbal irony, expressing sneering, personal disapproval in the guise of praise. (Oddly enough, sarcastic remarks are often used between friends, perhaps as a somewhat perverse demonstration of the strength of the bond--only a good friend could say this without hurting the other's feelings, or at least without excessively damaging the relationship, since feelings are often hurt in spite of a close relationship. If you drop your lunch tray and a stranger says, "Well, that was really intelligent," that's sarcasm. If your girlfriend or boyfriend says it, that's love--I think.)
home.cfl.rr.com/eghsap/apterms.html

# Certain qualities in an ancient text are likely to be lost even by a continuous posterity, and are all the more likely to go unrecognized by scholars working in a discontinuous tradition. Among the precarious qualities are attributes of tone in a text, such as humor or indirection. A prime example is the sarcastic passages in the Confucian Analects, some of which were read "straight" by naive readers, or explained away by learned commentators, in later times. For a list, see Brooks Original, Index sv Sarcasm. The mock-pious tone of Horace Carmina 1/34 is another casualty, the poem
//www.umass.edu/wsp/philology/apparatus/glossary/sz.html

# raw and scornful use of apparent approval to express disapproval. Another of London's favorite devices for social commentary.
sunsite.berkeley.edu/London/Essays/glossary.html

# is one kind of irony; it is praise which is really an insult; sarcasm generally invovles malice, the desire to put someone down, eg, "This is my brilliant son, who failed out of college."
academic.brooklyn.cuny.edu/english/melani/lit_term.html

# A verbal form of irony. Saying the exact opposite of what one thinks in order to mock another person. Sarcasm expresses scorn, disapproval, or annoyance. Example: "'Ford! Hello, how are you?' 'Fine,' said Ford, 'look are you busy?' 'Am I busy?' exclaimed Arthur. 'Well, I've just got all these bulldozers and things to lie in front of because they'll knock my house down if I don't, but other than that . . . well, no, not especially, why?' They don't have sarcasm on Betelgeuse, and Ford Prefect often failed to notice it unless he was concentrating. He said, 'Good
//www.georgiasouthern.edu/~dougt/terms.htm

# which is very blunt and unsubtle spoken irony.
members.fortunecity.es/fabianvillegas/drama/glossary-i.htm

rjkstesch

Nikon D700

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

09/08/2005 06:27:52 PM · #22

And to think I actually bought a dictionary so that I could look at the nuances of words.

KaDi

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6

09/08/2005 06:29:55 PM · #23

Originally posted by rjkstesch:

And to think I actually bought a dictionary so that I could look at the nuances of words.

If you like reference materials, you should try: //www.thefreedictionary.com
(Not a perfect reference, but rather dynamic.)

09/08/2005 06:33:46 PM · #24

Kadi,

Just for the record, your sarcasm was perfectly obvious to me and I did NOT intend to lump you in any anal-retentive category. Some others, earlier in the thread, I'm not so sure about :-) Maybe everyone is just spoofing, but I donno.... I know you too well from your posts, though, to take that one seriously...

R.

jenesis