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09/08/2005 11:36:58 AM · #101 |
Originally posted by Beagleboy:
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Ok, then. According to this logic, everyone who participated in this thread are bold-faced thieves who should be hung by their thumbs. Everyone who participated in that thread borrowed images from all over the net for a joke. Nobody complaiend about that.
Same thing here. Tons of people "stole" images to participate in this activity. No one complained there either. You don't see people writing in "OMG, you stole my hair/guy mowing lawn/ Yoda photo". |
I'm sorry Beagleboy but I am not familiar with those threads. I was only trying to address the case at hand.
And I like your sig too.
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09/08/2005 11:38:12 AM · #102 |
Originally posted by frumoaznicul:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by doctornick:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by frumoaznicul:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by frumoaznicul:
I think people get insulted so easily on this site it's impossible to not inult someone anything you say. |
I find this so terribly insulting, I have never been so offended, I can't believe that you would post such a thing.
LOL |
Oh and I can't express how insulted I am by your reply. Umbelivable how insensitive can some people be. |
You have really crossed the line here!
I'm telling my mommy. |
I'm gonna tell my daddy...he's bigger and stronger than yours! :P |
But not as big and strong as my mommy, no one kicks butt and takes names like Mommy. And before you ask: Yes, she does wear combat boots. |
My mommy can kill all ya mommy's just by taking off her boots. |
My mommy has "Goldbond" medicated foot powder...:P |
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09/08/2005 11:41:10 AM · #103 |
Originally posted by doctornick:
Originally posted by frumoaznicul:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by doctornick:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by frumoaznicul:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by frumoaznicul:
I think people get insulted so easily on this site it's impossible to not inult someone anything you say. |
I find this so terribly insulting, I have never been so offended, I can't believe that you would post such a thing.
LOL |
Oh and I can't express how insulted I am by your reply. Umbelivable how insensitive can some people be. |
You have really crossed the line here!
I'm telling my mommy. |
I'm gonna tell my daddy...he's bigger and stronger than yours! :P |
But not as big and strong as my mommy, no one kicks butt and takes names like Mommy. And before you ask: Yes, she does wear combat boots. |
My mommy can kill all ya mommy's just by taking off her boots. |
My mommy has "Goldbond" medicated foot powder...:P |
Whatever that is it won't work on my mom, she hasn't taken her boots of since during the cold war. |
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09/08/2005 11:45:43 AM · #104 |
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09/08/2005 11:54:19 AM · #105 |
Originally posted by laurielblack:
Originally posted by deapee:
Well, I shall say that if it does have anything to do with DPC Fanatics, I would probably agree that there is something shady going on. I've been banned from DPC Fanatics for the past couple months for swearing amongst other things, while the whole entire room was swearing. Manic just strongly dislikes me, and used his personal feelings in a way that a site council member or another person of 'authority' (if you can call it that) should never do. |
I'd suggest you rethink the reasons why you were probably banned...swearing was the least of the issues.
I can't believe how this community has digressed over the past 18 months. The complaining, the attitudes, the egoism, the sheer volume of negativity that fills the forums makes me want to lose my lunch some days. I used to participate for fun. Now I'm not sure why I log in at all anymore. |
*nodding* I'm fairly certain this goes on a lot in his life, not just DPChallenge and Fanatics....unfortunately but he points the finger at everyone else, not realizing he has 3 more pointing right back. :/ Very sad actually...
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09/08/2005 12:08:27 PM · #106 |
Originally posted by KaDi:
Originally posted by chiqui74:
What really bothers me is that last night he was having a ball showing off the smiley and now he says he didn't find any humor in it. But I guess to each their own. |
Well, people get drunk and dance on tables with lampshades on their heads...and later regret it.
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I'll have you know, I NEVER wore the lampshade! *indignant reply*
(LOL...couldn't resist:))
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09/08/2005 12:44:16 PM · #107 |
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09/08/2005 01:26:47 PM · #108 |
| Well, after reading thru this entire thread, I can definitively say, "That was a great way to kill half an hour!" |
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09/08/2005 01:40:51 PM · #109 |
Originally posted by chiqui74:
So is your main problem that people were having fun at your expense? If so, there's some deeper issues going on, but like you said, I am hardly qualified. |
I understand yours and manics relationship and your need to defend him and his positions, but so far you could not be more wrong with your conclusions. I don't care if people make fun of me or have fun at my expense and that was NEVER the point of this thread or the whole subject. But you seem bent on making the point something else.
I wasn't going to post to here again but certain attitudes just burn me up. So what if people use your images for fun on this site. If it was done on this site it would not make a difference to me. But it wasn't done on this site. The image was REMOVED from this site and used on a site that claims no affiliation to this one WITHOUT my permission. That is THEFT! You can try and justify it any way you like, but stealing is stealing. The image was not associated with me until I happened to log into fanatics last night and obviously it was common knowledge, or at least a lot of people there knew of its existence based on how many people used it.
And no not everyone who participated on the above mentioned threads should be hung. But they did use images without permission. On a site like this where we claim to be concerned about unauthorized use of our images and scour the net for their unauthorized use, I don't understand why it is allowed to freely use other's images without permission. Kind of two faced isn't it?
Message edited by author 2005-09-08 13:44:18. |
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09/08/2005 01:50:09 PM · #110 |
Originally posted by Alienyst:
On a site like this where we claim to be concerned about unauthorized use of our images and scour the net for their unauthorized use, I don't understand why it is allowed to freely use other's images without permission. |
Manic already answered that one, as did I:
Originally posted by Manic:
Actually, I think it could be classed as a fair usage under 'parody' rather than copyright theft... |
Just because you consider it theft doesn't make it so.
Message edited by author 2005-09-08 13:59:24. |
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09/08/2005 02:02:44 PM · #111 |
Originally posted by Alienyst:
Originally posted by chiqui74:
So is your main problem that people were having fun at your expense? If so, there's some deeper issues going on, but like you said, I am hardly qualified. |
I understand yours and manics relationship and your need to defend him and his positions, but so far you could not be more wrong with your conclusions. I don't care if people make fun of me or have fun at my expense and that was NEVER the point of this thread or the whole subject. But you seem bent on making the point something else.
I wasn't going to post to here again but certain attitudes just burn me up. So what if people use your images for fun on this site. If it was done on this site it would not make a difference to me. But it wasn't done on this site. The image was REMOVED from this site and used on a site that claims no affiliation to this one WITHOUT my permission. That is THEFT! You can try and justify it any way you like, but stealing is stealing. The image was not associated with me until I happened to log into fanatics last night and obviously it was common knowledge, or at least a lot of people there knew of its existence based on how many people used it.
And no not everyone who participated on the above mentioned threads should be hung. But they did use images without permission. On a site like this where we claim to be concerned about unauthorized use of our images and scour the net for their unauthorized use, I don't understand why it is allowed to freely use other's images without permission. Kind of two faced isn't it? |
This has nothing to do with my relationship with Manic. Believe it or not, I am my own person and have my own opinions. It seems like you are the only that thinks this is theft. You've gotten apologies and the image has been removed, what else do you want?
June
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09/08/2005 02:04:43 PM · #112 |
I could understand it being image theft. But probably best if I stay out of it.
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09/08/2005 02:19:16 PM · #113 |
I was going to send this message as a PM to the SC members that have posted to this thread, but decided to say it publically instead.
"It really bothers me the way all you SC guys are rallying around Manic, and taking his side against Alienyst. Does Alienyst really deserve to have to defend his sanity against uncalled for remarks from Manic's fiancee? Can't someone on SC step in and tell her to zip it? Such has been said to me a few times in the past when my mouth got carried away.
Would be nice if you could be a little more objective in your posts. And it would be nice to see someone in authority here stick up for what is at the bottom of every page at dpc. No matter who did it, or whether you consider it theft, the bottom line is that the man's image was used without permission. Own up to that fact and stop ganging up on the poor guy."
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09/08/2005 02:29:57 PM · #114 |
Why does this keep going back to me being Manic's fiance and defending him? I would have still posted the samt things if this was relating to someone else. Aren't we all entitled to our opinions? As I said earlier, I am my own person and he does not need anyone to defend him, I just don't agree with Alienyst side of the story because of the way he was acting last night. I do not think this is theft and I simply stated my opion on everyhting just like everyone else did.
June
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09/08/2005 02:37:30 PM · #115 |
I don't like this talk of theft, and reliance on a statement at the bottom of the page. People are too prescriptive over wording and are getting hung up over it.
In practice, people use other's images from this website to poke gentle fun at each other. I think that if you participate in the forums, you have to accept that it might happen to you. If you don't like it when it does, ask the authorities to remove the offending image, and it is done. If you never want it to happen, add an additional sentence to that effect in your bio.
It is not theft. It is not a material breach of the ToS. You had a remedy to stop or prevent it. In this case, the issue was remedied promptly.
I am sometimes very surprised by the infantile approach people take to resolving these issues - something about cyberspace affecting people's ability to resolve issues that they would deal with in a trice in real life.
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09/08/2005 02:40:31 PM · #116 |
I've posted a couple of times in this thread so I'll respond. I don't really feel that I've taken either "side." I did suggest to Alienyst that I do not at all believe that there was any malicious intent with this whole mess. He made many posts about his "nudie boy" picture, and everyone had a big laugh. So someone thought it would be funny to give him his own smiley, much the same way many users in chat have chosen their own smiley. Alienyst apparently did not think it was funny. Once this was clearly conveyed (as I believe it was not in the beginning, hence some of the surprise in this post) Manic did his best to remedy the situation immediately. My response has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that Manic is an SC member - it's based upon what I know of DPFanatics, who are, in general, a great, fun loving group of people. Those who are mean and malicious are banned from chat and had that been the intent of this, it just wouldn't have been carried out.
We're at a point now where there really isn't much else to be done. Alienyst has expressed his opinion, Manic has complied with his requests. There was no intended ill-will, no one is going to be banned or punished for a joke that was taken the wrong way. If Alienyst has further issues, he's welcome to contact the Site Council or the Admins. The same goes for anyone else. At this point, this thread serves no further purpose and I am locking it. |
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09/08/2005 03:07:37 PM · #117 |
I locked it. The words below are not mine, but I agree:
Images used from this site for parody or other lawful activity (please refer to US copyright laws for a full description of lawful and unlawful use of images copyrighted by others) in no way impact DPC's liability with respect to those images. It is our understanding that an image was used without permission, whether lawful or not, and that derrivative image has been removed from an unassociated site.
This thread is being locked because the underlying issue has been resolved and the questions posed at the start of this thread have been answered. This thread has outlived its usefulness and is devolving into namecalling and conspiracy theories which undermine the harmony and community of DPC.
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