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08/24/2005 10:25:54 PM · #1 |
To shoot macro .. does the mm have to get smaller.. or does that have anything to do with it?
Also about Nikons.... why do they make so many lenses for the flippin coolpix cameras that won't work with the slr's ? Don't get me wrong -- i mean I have both... but what if I want a fisheye for my D50? Do I buy one that works with a film camera if it supposed to carry over ?
Help I am stumped? |
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08/24/2005 10:33:18 PM · #2 |
Originally posted by 4ROGGYCHEF: To shoot macro .. does the mm have to get smaller.. or does that have anything to do with it?
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The mm or focal length stays the same. The minimum focusing distance decreases.
Originally posted by 4ROGGYCHEF:
Also about Nikons.... why do they make so many lenses for the flippin coolpix cameras that won't work with the slr's ? Don't get me wrong -- i mean I have both... but what if I want a fisheye for my D50? Do I buy one that works with a film camera if it supposed to carry over ?
Help I am stumped? |
I didn't know Coolpix cameras had interchangable lenses.
A fisheye for a film camera will not appear as wide and you will not get the same effects when mounted on a D50 because the sensor on the D50 is cropped by a factor of 1.5 from that of the 36x24mm film plane.
Message edited by author 2005-08-24 22:34:29.
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08/24/2005 10:41:37 PM · #3 |
okay I took this with my lens...18-55mm
Could I have gotten a better picture with my 70-300mm
I guess what I really need to know is .. do I already have what I need to take good macros? Or do I need something else?
Message edited by author 2005-08-24 22:42:04. |
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08/24/2005 10:48:35 PM · #4 |
There's always the reverse lens method.
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08/24/2005 10:49:32 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by 4ROGGYCHEF: |
You can do better then that, but I don't think it has as much to do with the lens as it does with your technique.
Use a more diffused light source(turn off the on camera flash), a smaller f/stop setting (higher number) and a tripod. And take the camera off of Program or Auto and set it on Av. Learn how to do those few things by practicing and your images should improve 100% in less then a few days.
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08/24/2005 11:03:05 PM · #6 |
Macros can be hard to do at first, but once you get the hang of it you get hooked.
Depending on the results you are looking for you can use a variety of different lenses with your D50. sure you can use the 70-300, but you need to find out the close focus distance. some lenses will let you get between 7 and 18 inches away from your subject. Again each lens is different. My Tokina 80-400 has a close focus distance of 13 ft so this thing is absolutely no good for macro work. Now my sigma 105mm has a Minimum Focusing Distance: 12.3 in normal and 4.7in Macro, This is a good working distance for macros.
The other add on lenses you have for your cool pix wont work with your DSLR. These add on lenses were made to give a similar flexibality that DSLRs have with their array of lens options. They just wont work.
Another thing to think about is that the term MACRO is used very loosely in the Point N Shoot cameras, each of those manuals will tell you its to allow you to get closer to your subject, which the macro function does, but it does not give a true macro image. MAcro or 1:1 image basically means you should be able to take a photo of your subject , a nickle, and completely fill a 35mm frame with the nickle.
So with that said are you just wanting to get a little closer to stuff or do you want to see the detail in a fly's eye?
below are 2 different macro shots, one REALLY close and the other a little futher away
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08/24/2005 11:08:09 PM · #7 |
Thank you so much for the info.. I am willing to try everything. I have a problem .. I get onto a new thing .. this time it is photography... and I won't stop until I am satisfied that I know what I am doing. Last time it was cooking and I really went to culinary school and did very well. But this.... I really have admiration for people who are good at this... this stuff is pretty hard really. |
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08/24/2005 11:10:50 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by 4ROGGYCHEF: Thank you so much for the info.. I am willing to try everything. I have a problem .. I get onto a new thing .. this time it is photography... and I won't stop until I am satisfied that I know what I am doing. Last time it was cooking and I really went to culinary school and did very well. But this.... I really have admiration for people who are good at this... this stuff is pretty hard really. |
So is it food photography that your are wanting to do? Very little of that really requires a macro lens. You just have to get close and either of the lenses you mentioned should be up to the task.
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08/24/2005 11:11:52 PM · #9 |
So with that said are you just wanting to get a little closer to stuff or do you want to see the detail in a fly's eye?/////
Definitely the fly's eye!!!
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08/24/2005 11:19:50 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by 4ROGGYCHEF: So with that said are you just wanting to get a little closer to stuff or do you want to see the detail in a fly's eye?/////
Definitely the fly's eye!!! |
Then what you need is either a true macro lens or an extension tube to go on your existing lenses. Dish out a few more duckies. No one ever said this hobby was cheap.
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08/24/2005 11:24:30 PM · #11 |
thank you.. that was the answer I think I was looking for right there...I don't mind spending money to do things the easier way. |
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08/25/2005 12:01:25 AM · #12 |
ok the flys eye, there are many ways to acheive the amount of magnification with out breaking the bank.
But first the best option is a true dedicated macro lens, Im not up on Nikon lenses, but canon has a Manual focus MPE65 lesn or somehting like that is an awesome dedicated macro lens. Nikon should have some thing similar
then you have lenses like the Sigma 105mm Macro which is an awesome lens, great for portriat work as well as macro work. Also there is the Tamrom 90mm Macro and several 50mm macro lenses that are great.
then you have the option to reverse a 50mm lesn on the front of your 18-55 lens, you need a low cost 50mm lens for about $70 and a reversing ring to screw the 50mm on to your 18-55 (or your 70-300)
Then there are extension tubes, cost between $109 and $120 for a set of 3, I have the kenko's, my ant pic above was taking using all 3 extension tubes, the fly above was my 50mm with the 24mm extension tube
with most of these options to get the best results you need a macro ring flash. as your lens will be too close to the subject and your apeture will be very small its hard to get proper lighting with out a lot of light.
James
Message edited by author 2005-08-25 00:03:00. |
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08/25/2005 12:35:45 AM · #13 |
i have the nikon5700 and it does great macros. i bought a canon 500d macro lens and it helps me stay further away from the subject.
//totaldis.fbeye.org/macro/
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08/25/2005 12:56:54 AM · #14 |
Sharla - start here:
Jodie Coston's Free Online Photography Course
It will teach all you need for starters with DSLR's (and SLR's for that matter). You can just walk yourself through it. I learned tons from this easy to follow course.
Jodie is a member here. Jodie Coston
Message edited by author 2005-08-25 00:59:20. |
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08/25/2005 02:06:38 AM · #15 |
Thx for the link! Excellent sight for free lessons. |
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