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08/09/2005 07:41:14 PM · #26
Originally posted by thatcloudthere:

If you look at the fredmiranda threads that link to a few different sources, it'll be tough not to be convinced that this is the real deal.

The author of the .pdf works in advertising for the company that released the info for the 20d when it came out.


I wonder if Canon plans these leaks to get all the free hype and publicity going.
08/09/2005 07:46:07 PM · #27
Originally posted by nsbca7:

Originally posted by thatcloudthere:

If you look at the fredmiranda threads that link to a few different sources, it'll be tough not to be convinced that this is the real deal.

The author of the .pdf works in advertising for the company that released the info for the 20d when it came out.


I wonder if Canon plans these leaks to get all the free hype and publicity going.


Yep, definitely...I believe it was actually the same guy who leaked the .pdf last year.

Look at what's being talked about on every digital photo website...these exact rumours. Canon guys are probably scouring the site looking for feedback while photographers drool (or complain).
08/09/2005 07:53:06 PM · #28
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08/09/2005 07:55:34 PM · #29
Well if it's a full frame, I'm all over it as a second body for my wide angles, using my 1D II for the telephoto shots...
08/09/2005 08:03:21 PM · #30
Yep, this really makes sense to me. Whereas the sports shooters and news photographers were looking forward to the 20d as a back-up to the 1dMk2...it's time for the stock/studio/wedding/landscape photographers to drool over a back-up to the 1dsMk2.

This does help me, though, as it will definitely drop the price of the used 20d's out there...and maybe drop the prices of the 1dMkII's a little bit as well.
08/09/2005 08:14:26 PM · #31
I have to wonder about that 5d...

It would mean that Canon would offer a superior product then one of its cameras in the Eos-1 line... which does not make much sense.

the website with the pdf is called "netfun" which also makes me wonder.
08/09/2005 08:17:06 PM · #32
How is it superior?

Sure, it's ff with more megapixels but it won't have weather sealing, nearly the custom functions, and on and on.

Couldn't people have said the same thing about the 20d? It has a higher fps than the 1dsII!

Not to mention the AF points on this new 5d...

Like I said, I think that as the 20d is to the 1dmk2, the 5d is to the 1dsmk2.

Message edited by author 2005-08-09 20:19:15.
08/09/2005 08:22:03 PM · #33
w00t!!
Just read thru the Tech Specs PDF and boy, this is one nice step up!

- 12.8Mpx full-frame(!!) sensor
- Partial and true spot meters, 9-point AF
- RGB histogram... YES!
- 2.5" 230,000px LCD, quite an improvement
- Interchangeable focus screens, oh baby!
- ISO 50-3200 (ISO 50, Yahoo!)
- Shutter to 1/8000s
- 3fps for 17 RAW or 60 JPEG images (speed is ho-hum, but great buffer depth)
- Uses same battery system as current models (BP-511, 512, 514)

But...
- Only USB 2.0 connectivity
- Still no ISO in viewfinder
- No weather sealing (didn't really expect this)

This is my next camera, no doubt. Canon, launch it ASAP please!
08/09/2005 08:34:03 PM · #34
I wonder what the actual street price will be. Somebody on FM suggested $4400. It'll probably be a little lower with any luck.
08/09/2005 08:44:01 PM · #35
I would hope for a real time histogram along with it being RGB, rather than just in preview.
08/09/2005 08:47:43 PM · #36
Originally posted by cpanaioti:

I would hope for a real time histogram along with it being RGB, rather than just in preview.

does any other camera have this? I've never heard of this stuff in real time.
08/09/2005 08:49:41 PM · #37
Originally posted by kyebosh:

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

I would hope for a real time histogram along with it being RGB, rather than just in preview.

does any other camera have this? I've never heard of this stuff in real time.


The panasonic FZ series cameras have a real time histogram just not RGB.
08/09/2005 08:50:41 PM · #38
I'm not even going to speculate what this will cost or what features it should have. I was sooo off on the 350D.
08/09/2005 08:58:03 PM · #39
The price I heard thrown about was $2500. Just between the 20D and 1DMII.
Oh well, I guess no 30D in the near future or maybe Februrary.
08/09/2005 09:07:55 PM · #40
Originally posted by kyebosh:

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

I would hope for a real time histogram along with it being RGB, rather than just in preview.

does any other camera have this? I've never heard of this stuff in real time.


The 1D II has real time histograms...RGB too if you want...
08/09/2005 09:09:39 PM · #41
Originally posted by doctornick:

Originally posted by kyebosh:

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

I would hope for a real time histogram along with it being RGB, rather than just in preview.

does any other camera have this? I've never heard of this stuff in real time.


The 1D II has real time histograms...RGB too if you want...

How well does that work? Do you actually use it?
08/09/2005 09:10:19 PM · #42
Originally posted by kyebosh:

Originally posted by doctornick:

Originally posted by kyebosh:

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

I would hope for a real time histogram along with it being RGB, rather than just in preview.

does any other camera have this? I've never heard of this stuff in real time.


The 1D II has real time histograms...RGB too if you want...

How well does that work? Do you actually use it?


All the time...unless I'm mistaken, what do you mean by real time histogram? You point and get a histogram? Or histogram after shooting?

Message edited by author 2005-08-09 21:11:41.
08/09/2005 09:10:41 PM · #43
I didn't realize that!

Is the realtime histogram on the 1dII accurate?
08/09/2005 09:13:40 PM · #44
Originally posted by thatcloudthere:

I didn't realize that!

Is the realtime histogram on the 1dII accurate?


Ok, I'm mistaken, what I mean is you shoot, your hot appears on the screen with a histogram.
08/09/2005 09:14:23 PM · #45
The Canon factory rep for my area told me that there is going to be a big sales meeting in September to release a new camera and a few other items. He said if there is going to be a new camera released, it will be known at the meeting. He is just as clueless as we are.
08/09/2005 09:14:47 PM · #46
Well at least it's RGB, i don't even have that on the 1D unless i've not discovered it yet.
08/09/2005 09:55:07 PM · #47
Originally posted by thatcloudthere:

I didn't realize that!

Is the realtime histogram on the 1dII accurate?


Realtime would mean before the shot while you are pointing at the subject. The 1D Mark II does not have that feature. No realtime histogram, no realtime lcd preview, no realtime. I personally would not even want it.
08/10/2005 07:27:13 AM · #48
A realtime histogram seen through the viewfinder would be fantastic if it was accurate. Of course, it's only as accurate as the meter reading which is essentially often telling you to over or under-expose because it's being fooled for one reason or another.

But if there was a way to have an accurate, real-time histogram it would be fantastic...I would rarely have to chimp and I could see when I was blowing highlights instantly...of course, this is a dream feature akin to mind-reading focus.
08/10/2005 07:29:39 AM · #49
Originally posted by thatcloudthere:

A realtime histogram seen through the viewfinder would be fantastic if it was accurate.

It's a shame it's rather implausible. :-)
08/10/2005 07:44:06 AM · #50
Originally posted by PaulMdx:

Originally posted by thatcloudthere:

A realtime histogram seen through the viewfinder would be fantastic if it was accurate.

It's a shame it's rather implausible. :-)


Yeah, just like the mind-reading focus I mentioned below!
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