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08/07/2005 01:46:51 AM · #1
I know this is such a stupid question, but I have to ask because I can't figure it out!! I dont know how to clone. I've tried and I've tried but I just dont get it. Is there a tutorial anywhere that can help me. I've tried Adobe Help, but that doesnt help. Oh, I'm using Photoshop Elelements 3.0. Thanks!!!
08/07/2005 01:57:27 AM · #2
Open an image. Look at your toolbox; see the tool that looks like a rubber stamp? Select that.

Now look at the top of your editing window; you'll see a place where you can specify a size for the brush on the clone stamp. Make it like 50 pixels for now.

Be sure caps lock on keyboard is OFF.

Move cursor into your image somewhere and hold down the alt key. Click.

Move cursor somewhere else and click-and-drag (not holding down alt key this time); it should be copying what you clicked on to where you are dragging, basically.

That's fundamentally how it works; when you got that aprt down, let us know and we can help with some of the details of doing it well.

R.
08/07/2005 02:02:24 AM · #3
Thanks bear, I'll give it a try!!!
08/07/2005 02:05:14 AM · #4
OK, When I do that, nothing happens, the thing I want to remove, (the rock) isnt getting cloned. When I let go of the alt button and I drag over the rock, just like the outline of the whole photo move with the cursor, strange! Any ideas?
08/07/2005 02:07:43 AM · #5
You Alt-Click over what you"re going to paint with, then paint over the undesired part with a duplicate of the selected point.
08/07/2005 02:10:14 AM · #6
You Alt-Click over what you"re going to paint with, then paint over the undesired part with a duplicate of the selected point.

I know, thats what I've been doing. I alt/click over the wanted area (water), then let go of the alt while still holding down the click, and drag over the unwanted area (rock), and nothing happens, except the outline of the photo moves. Is this wrong?
08/07/2005 02:11:00 AM · #7
Except, I have a mac, so it's command/click, doesnt make a difference though

08/07/2005 02:17:48 AM · #8
SCI, you need to hold down the Option key, not the Command key. You should option-click on the part that you want to copy, release the mouse button and the key and then paint over the portion that you want to remove. If you Command-click the image and hold down the command key, you indeed move the whole image. When you option-click, the cursor briefly turns into a crosshair kind of thing.
08/07/2005 02:22:35 AM · #9
WOW, IT WORKED!! THANKS SO MUCH EVERYONE!!!!
08/07/2005 02:24:50 AM · #10
Great! Remember that Opt = Alt and that CMD = CTL and you'll be able to translate most PC commands into Mac.
08/07/2005 02:26:53 AM · #11
This is not for a basic challenge is it?
08/07/2005 02:40:40 AM · #12
No, No, just got back from my trip out west, workin on a few pics.
08/07/2005 04:13:41 AM · #13
Don't know if it works for everybody, but I find I can get better results by really zooming in when cloning, like as big as I can get it, and still easily make out what's there. Another trick I was told, move your origin point around, it helps break up the repetitive patterns that your mind picks up on when viewing.
08/07/2005 09:50:26 AM · #14
Glad you're clickin' dude. Now for your next lesson, choose an origin point in the middle of your image and do your cloning somewhere far away from it. While holding down the mouse key and dragging, note that your origin point is moving as you move the mouse!

In other words, the point you're cloning from is defined as certain coordinates away from the point you're cloning to. This is extremely useful, because you can set up an origin point very close to the point you want to alter, and just drag along replacing something with whatever is right next door to it. For example, say you have a long, hair-like dust spot on your sensor, in the sky area; you can replace this mark with a clone of the sky right NEXT to it throughout its length, rather than having the same spot be cloned repetitively. Since skies often have subtly varying densities as you move closer to the horizon, this produces a much more acceptable result.

You are going to want to experiment with fuzzy vs hard brushes, too. The fuzzy ones usually work better.

And, finally, it can be VERY useful to define a selection area before you start cloning if what you are cloning out abuts something you don't want to touch. Just make the selection area large enough to contain everything you want to remove and everywhere you want to borrow from.

R.

Message edited by author 2005-08-07 09:51:28.
08/07/2005 11:16:55 AM · #15
Just another tip for cloning: create a new layer and clone away on that with the 'Use all layers' checkbox checked. If you don't like a part of your cloning work, then you can erase that portion from the top layer and redo it. This means that if, at the start of the work, you do a bit that you are later unhappy with, you don't have to undo all the other work. Additionally, you can turn the top layer off and on again in order to see how much improved (or otherwise) the picture is.
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