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08/04/2005 11:22:24 AM · #26 |
Originally posted by azoychka:
It does not matter if it offends you 'notonline' what matters is if it might offend a minority individual. It is always easy to brush aside something because it is not obvious to a non-minority person. Sensitivity and respect is sort of important....I believe........ |
I'm Sioux and I don't find it offensive.....
Also...this poster sounds very familiar...could it be...
azoychka=eyeronik ?
Just a thought
Message edited by author 2005-08-04 11:30:03. |
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08/04/2005 11:31:30 AM · #27 |
Accepted. I am sad that much of the greatness of native peoples is often lost............
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08/04/2005 11:35:35 AM · #28 |
thanks colya nice conection but sadly no my vocabulary is not so harsh or colourful.........but I understand his frustration...........he looks for something more than cute little pictures that express little but fancy processing.
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08/04/2005 11:38:02 AM · #29 |
too often the pictures that win have absolutely nothing left of the magic of the subject when it was first snapped. I would love to see pictures straight from the camera with no processing.....if at least to see what the real image and object was like..............
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08/04/2005 11:44:52 AM · #30 |
Originally posted by azoychka:
too often the pictures that win have absolutely nothing left of the magic of the subject when it was first snapped. I would love to see pictures straight from the camera with no processing.....if at least to see what the real image and object was like.............. |
Cool. I can provide you that!! This is the original, and the ONLY thing I did to it was a tiny levels compensation and a border:
That said, it's not exactly possible for people to do what you have asked. Even the $2-300 P&S cameras have in-camera processing now. They will do automatic color-saturations and sharpening without you even knowing about it. You and I (Rebel users) have the option of turning that capability on and off by setting the camera to either Parameter1 (on) or Parameter2 (off). It's ON by default - I turn mine off. Canon specifically did that so that photographers would have the option of doing all their post-processing in PS rather than in camera to give them more flexibility. Bottom line? Almost NO digital photo goes without some level of post-processing. |
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08/04/2005 11:48:46 AM · #31 |
funny how this complaint comes from a guy who placed 200th... lol.. surprise surprise... lol
also, you say you'd prefer to see pics straight from the camera,,, i draw your attention to your photo titled "draped" in your own portfolio... straight from camera with no alterations at all ?.. i don't think so...
you gotta love these folk eh... if you felt so strongly about pics straight from the camera you would do that reguardless of whether you had to or not... so don't even go there....
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08/04/2005 11:49:08 AM · #32 |
Originally posted by azoychka:
too often the pictures that win have absolutely nothing left of the magic of the subject when it was first snapped. I would love to see pictures straight from the camera with no processing.....if at least to see what the real image and object was like.............. |
Maybe that could be a challenge topic if it hasn't already?
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08/04/2005 11:52:45 AM · #33 |
Originally posted by Makka:
Originally posted by azoychka:
too often the pictures that win have absolutely nothing left of the magic of the subject when it was first snapped. I would love to see pictures straight from the camera with no processing.....if at least to see what the real image and object was like.............. |
Maybe that could be a challenge topic if it hasn't already? |
//www.dpchallenge.com/challenge_results.php?CHALLENGE_ID=127
Could be redone though :)
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08/04/2005 11:54:17 AM · #34 |
Here's some discussion on this topic...
A Third Challenge Per Week - No Editing
No Editing
Very lively discussion of the challenge that Ben posted a link to:
NO Edits
edit to add more...
Message edited by author 2005-08-04 11:58:42.
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08/04/2005 12:03:11 PM · #35 |
one of those topics mentions the idea of having a no edit theme but only include the more expensive end of the camera market which have these options of doing nothing for you at all, including focus, sharpen etc... I think this is the wrong road for the site to go down as it then means those of us with less money to spend can't join in and will hence lose interest in the site,,, i'm new here and think this site is superb with some great people... but lets remember that just because you can afford a great camera, doesn't make you a great photographer.. lol.. i mean, i have an older more expensive acoustic guitar... but i am so bad at playing it... so its worth amounts to nothing....
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08/04/2005 12:09:39 PM · #36 |
Originally posted by stphq:
one of those topics mentions the idea of having a no edit theme but only include the more expensive end of the camera market which have these options of doing nothing for you at all, including focus, sharpen etc... I think this is the wrong road for the site to go down as it then means those of us with less money to spend can't join in and will hence lose interest in the site,,, i'm new here and think this site is superb with some great people... but lets remember that just because you can afford a great camera, doesn't make you a great photographer.. lol.. i mean, i have an older more expensive acoustic guitar... but i am so bad at playing it... so its worth amounts to nothing.... |
I meant no post editing after the shot is taken! Whatever your camera does then that's what it does. No point in limiting it to those with the higher end cameras. I've seen pictures on here from cheaper cameras than mine that S&^% all over my photographic skills! The camera won't help me there!
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08/04/2005 12:14:14 PM · #37 |
Originally posted by Makka:
I meant no post editing after the shot is taken! Whatever your camera does then that's what it does. No point in limiting it to those with the higher end cameras. I've seen pictures on here from cheaper cameras than mine that S&^% all over my photographic skills! The camera won't help me there! |
Actually, I think an "Absolutely No Editing" challenge would really favor those with decent P&S cameras (for the reason I stated in my previous post in this thread). |
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08/04/2005 12:15:35 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by dacrazyrn:
Holy crap people! How far does this PC crap have to go. An excellent picture of a Native American (of which is part of my heritage) performing a ritual/ceremony. What is offensive? If everything that is offensive to ONE freakin minority person is stricken from ever being seen, said, etc, then everyone will have to shut their pie holes and NEVER speak or do anything, ever!
Wait, what about someone overweight shown eating, or sitting around on a couch or something? STRIKE IT!
If you just have respect for people, in general, all this PC crap would be out the door. People can't celebrate differences without it being "bad," especially when they are not of that particular group. I will put in here as an example of the disrespectful use of the N word. |
Exactly! Well said! |
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08/04/2005 12:16:54 PM · #39 |
Originally posted by aboutimage:
Originally posted by Makka:
I meant no post editing after the shot is taken! Whatever your camera does then that's what it does. No point in limiting it to those with the higher end cameras. I've seen pictures on here from cheaper cameras than mine that S&^% all over my photographic skills! The camera won't help me there! |
Actually, I think an "Absolutely No Editing" challenge would really favor those with decent P&S cameras (for the reason I stated in my previous post in this thread). |
I can still shoot RAW and do tons of editing and still be legal in a "no editing" challenge. |
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08/04/2005 12:19:34 PM · #40 |
After reading this and his recent comments, you can see this person is just complaining to complain. He doesn't answer nobodies questions and makes up new things he is mad about.
If you want attention, ask for it in a positive way. We will pay attention to. Just don't do it in a negative way. You make more friends if you are nice! |
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08/04/2005 12:19:37 PM · #41 |
hey 'stphq' when you enter a challenge you are fair game, in a portfolio it is different. I looked at your one wonderful entry....hair being cut! man oh man your are indeed on the 'cutting' edge of art!! haha
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08/04/2005 12:22:14 PM · #42 |
ok 'sonifo' I will be nicer........I am though a bit of a complainer.........truth be known there are indeed some very cool stuff here and everyone is great but hey we can't all just slobber over each other all the time........
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08/04/2005 12:23:07 PM · #43 |
I don't mind processing either...obviously..........but I hope it serves a purpose and we do not serve it..........
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08/04/2005 01:18:32 PM · #44 |
azoychka.... for one, i didn't belittle your "draped" picture, just pointed out that it indeed used editing... neither did i belittle your tools of the trade entry, just pointed out that it was no surprise to me that the complaint about the winner was from such a low placed entrant... thats not to say i didn't like your entry personally...
so that said, i would appreciate it if you do not act like a child and start personal attacks on my entries... of which i might add is a very first attempt and as such done pretty well at an average of 5.36 (not far of your best of 5.41)... you are of course entitled to your opinion but in my view, your personal attack should be stricken by admin as rude and offensive (something you were originally complaining about) ... i shall of course not post anymore on the matter, as its off topic and stepping into the realms of sillyness....
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08/04/2005 01:43:55 PM · #45 |
ok ..... 'stphq' you started the personal stuff not me.......... I hope the goal here is the challenge and not the ribbon.......but of course.........
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08/04/2005 02:33:37 PM · #46 |
Oh my goodness. My great great grandmother was a full blooded Shawnee Indian. Indians used tools. The category was "tools of the trade". This whole PC nonsense has gone way tooooooo far. I loved the picture and how it was represented. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. If you offended by the pictures that are posted here....then get off the site. I'm so sick and tired of people saying "oh I'm so offended" then stick around to see what else comes up or is posted. Stop the fighting, stop the bickering, just stop being so hateful. We are all minorities...none of us are the same race or creed. We are lumped into black and white but our genes tell us that we are part red, yellow, brown, white and who knows what else. Open your mind. Let the anger and hurt go. Make yourself happy and stop trying to make everyone else feel miserable about the way they think. I will now step off my soapbox.
gc |
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08/04/2005 03:31:56 PM · #47 |
gee I never said I was offended.........I just implied that the picture was an introductory art program level pic and that refering to a ceremonial dress as tools of a trade, might, and I said might, be offensive to a native american. Indeed many here of such heritage have said that it is not, but that doesn't mean that someone might not be. I personally do not see anything related to a culture as part of 'tools of a trade' but hey I only score in the low low group so it is easy to invalidate my concern.
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08/04/2005 03:34:30 PM · #48 |
1. Noone can make anyone feel anything.
2. If you feel a certain way when you see/hear/touch something then you feel that way. Yes, other's actions may be involved, but you are responsible for your own feelings.
3. Everyone's opinion is valid and no opinion is the right or wrong opinion. Open discussion is welcome and most of the time that is what we have here. When we are passionate about our side of an argument sometimes we lose site of the fact that others may feel differently. Let's try and remember that.
Now back to our regularly scheduled heated debate.
;o)
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08/04/2005 04:06:19 PM · #49 |
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08/04/2005 04:09:07 PM · #50 |
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