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07/31/2005 11:09:43 PM · #1
A very good depiction of affluence/ material wealth just fell in my lap (actually, it didn't literally, thank god!).
Problem is, it is not a very pleasant photo, and im afraid if i post is i will be chased from the site with pitchforks and flaming torches (wheres Ken when you need him heh).
I know it wont score well because of its content - but i dont think i am going to be able to pull off the photo i originally aspired (due to my lack of material wealth haha).

Oh what to do what to do - my update addiction has be unnorished for weeks!
07/31/2005 11:17:48 PM · #2
My own experience has been: If you have doubts, don't post it. It will get creamed. It's happened to me on the two occasions I posted an entry just to be in the challenge. I pulled my affluence photo for the same reason. I like it, but I don't think it's going to do well, so what's the point?
07/31/2005 11:27:38 PM · #3
well im used to voters not like my images - too ootb for most methinks
im just not sure i want the hatemail that may ensue
07/31/2005 11:27:52 PM · #4
post it in the challenge and see what happens. How bad could it be???

edit: go for the hate mail. I find it rather amusing.

Message edited by author 2005-07-31 23:28:31.
07/31/2005 11:31:10 PM · #5
Well, in the end of course, you gotta go with what you feel, but to some people, it is much more desired, more important, to see an emotional response invoked by their work, be it positive or negative, than to just have people liking their 'pretty picture'. Personally, I really like a good emotive photo, and I may not always agree with it, but I can definitely appreciate when a statement is made in an image. But, I like looking at 'purdy pitchers' too :-) , so what do I know? hehehe

If'n you got thick skin, and especially if it's an avenue you've not explored before, I would say go for it, and see how you like the feeling...(don't try this at home folks, these are trained professionals) heeheehee

Like I said, you gotta go with what you feel. I know that probably doesn't help, but that's my 1.39 cents.
07/31/2005 11:41:18 PM · #6
Post it, get creamed. Some people might appreciate it, most won't. It's that small audience that can see past who are worth showing such pictures to.
07/31/2005 11:43:04 PM · #7
You could always entitle it "Going For the Brown". That way if it gets creamed, you can always claim it was your intention the whole time...

;-)
07/31/2005 11:43:40 PM · #8
Originally posted by Joey Lawrence:

Post it, get creamed. Some people might appreciate it, most won't. It's that small audience that can see past who are worth showing such pictures to.


...amen, brother!
07/31/2005 11:47:42 PM · #9
Originally posted by aboutimage:

My own experience has been: If you have doubts, don't post it. It will get creamed. It's happened to me on the two occasions I posted an entry just to be in the challenge. I pulled my affluence photo for the same reason. I like it, but I don't think it's going to do well, so what's the point?


I think it depends on what you are in the challenge for - to please others on this site, or to hone your skills in order to present your point of view via photographic images. If it moves you, then it will also move others - maybe not in the numbers you would like, but then that is the nature of DPC. I say post it.

Message edited by author 2005-07-31 23:47:56.
07/31/2005 11:53:03 PM · #10
You may as well post it to the challenge -- you have our attention now that I for one want to see it in the forums if you don't. :p

David
07/31/2005 11:59:57 PM · #11
Originally posted by Britannica:

You may as well post it to the challenge -- you have our attention now that I for one want to see it in the forums if you don't. :p

David


I promise i will post it in the forum if i get my other shot done instead ;)
08/01/2005 08:41:57 AM · #12
Originally posted by mesmeraj:

A very good depiction of affluence/ material wealth just fell in my lap (actually, it didn't literally, thank god!).
Problem is, it is not a very pleasant photo, and im afraid if i post is i will be chased from the site with pitchforks and flaming torches (wheres Ken when you need him heh).
I know it wont score well because of its content - but i dont think i am going to be able to pull off the photo i originally aspired (due to my lack of material wealth haha).

Oh what to do what to do - my update addiction has be unnorished for weeks!


Sounds to me like you've got a ribbon image if you edit it right. Make sure it is not very saturated, not much color. Dodge and burn until no one will be in doubt that you have d&b'ed it. Maybe some selective dasaturation of the background. Give it a title that shouts ART and a fairly wide black border. The voters will love it. And if any body criticizes it in the least, you can complain that they are infringing upon your creativity.
08/01/2005 09:21:21 AM · #13
Sometimes it's hard to judge what people will like here. One shot that I was debating on entering for that reason got me a blue ribbon (much to my suprise). If you like the shot and are proud of it, go for it.
08/01/2005 09:38:11 AM · #14
You're not livin' if you're not livin' on the edge. Go for it.

Do what YOU like and don't worry about the aftermath. This isn't all about ribbons, but expression and artful exposure, right?? If it's a good shot, no matter what the subject, I say try it. You might be pleasantly surprised. I never try to 2nd guess what people will do. I thought my long exposure was dynamite and I'm now under 5. But I like it, so that's all that matters. Plus I might learn if I get constructive criticism.

Judy
08/01/2005 09:34:00 PM · #15
Go for it, don't mind the hatemail (if you get any) it isn't worth it. What matters is YOU! and how YOU feel about your photo. I get kicked in the but all the time or being myself and I kinda get used to that.

Never go for the mass if that means denying yourself.

Good luck.

Titia
08/01/2005 10:17:04 PM · #16
Originally posted by Titia:

Go for it, don't mind the hatemail (if you get any) it isn't worth it. What matters is YOU! and how YOU feel about your photo. I get kicked in the but all the time or being myself and I kinda get used to that.

Never go for the mass if that means denying yourself.

Good luck.

Titia


Well, then what's the point? Why subject yourself or your art to "the mass" if they don't matter. Unless, of course, if you're one of those people who enjoys good stiff kicks to the groin....for no good reason.

I agree...you're all that really matters, unless you're trying to play to a public forum and in that case they do matter. Why enter a dance contest, if you really don't like to dance?

Great art should communicate on some level to someone. No?
08/02/2005 02:24:08 PM · #17
Originally posted by pawdrix:

Originally posted by Titia:

Go for it, don't mind the hatemail (if you get any) it isn't worth it. What matters is YOU! and how YOU feel about your photo. I get kicked in the but all the time or being myself and I kinda get used to that.

Never go for the mass if that means denying yourself.

Good luck.

Titia


Well, then what's the point? Why subject yourself or your art to "the mass" if they don't matter. Unless, of course, if you're one of those people who enjoys good stiff kicks to the groin....for no good reason.

I agree...you're all that really matters, unless you're trying to play to a public forum and in that case they do matter. Why enter a dance contest, if you really don't like to dance?

Great art should communicate on some level to someone. No?


It's a bit hard for me to explain in English, but I'll try.
We all have an interest in photography. Why? I think because just like a painter or a poet, photographers want to express their feelings. You see that in these challenges too, one subject is displayed in a hundred different ways. Each individual says: this is me. Luckily we don't all have the same view on subjects, the world would be very boring if we had.

When you make a photo and show it to 10 people there only will be one or two who will grasp what you're trying to say. One or two don't really care and the rest will try to subject you to their personal view on the matter. (I'm not talking about techniques here). Now if you'll try to please the rest and shoot photos in a way as 'they' like, but wich actually isn't your style, you'll loose your own identity and your photos, though technically superb, will be 'dead', because they lack 'soul'.

I have two photos in the challenges that are doing poorly, but that doesn't matter at all to me. What matters are the one or two comments that say 'I like it very much'. Those comments are the raisins in the porridge as the saying goes.

That's what I meant when I encouraged mesmeraj to post the photo she was talking about. Because if you put your soul in it, every painting, poem or photo will speak to someone or other and may it be even only one, then you've achieved your goal.

I write poetry and sometimes people make suggestions to alter sentences, but what they actually are doing is writing their own verses on my theme.

Ok, I'm done, just be nice when you spank me LOL

08/02/2005 02:28:23 PM · #18
Post the damn thing already!


...and it BETTER be good! ;-)
08/02/2005 02:36:43 PM · #19
I say enter it.

If it's controversial, all the better. You can measure your success in the number of comments, rather than score. So what if it scores low, the government isn't going to come after you... well, unless it's REALLY controversial.
08/02/2005 03:02:34 PM · #20
Originally posted by Joey Lawrence:

Post it, get creamed. Some people might appreciate it, most won't. It's that small audience that can see past who are worth showing such pictures to.


Ditto Joey.

My 2 cents (and I don't intend to offend anyone by this) when I'm feeling like "no one will like it" I just think of the old proverb; opinions are like a$$holes, everybody's got one. Be creative and don't worry about the majority.

Post it up!
08/02/2005 05:06:49 PM · #21
I don't think playing to the minority is all that wise either, especially by entering a DPC Challenge. That's like running backwards into a doorknob. Ouch!!!



Message edited by author 2005-08-03 07:29:40.
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