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06/28/2005 02:06:03 PM · #1

Hi

Their is this web site on Zen meditation that has a great file made in Flash to describe how simple meditation is .

My problem is that i want to save that file and view it on my PC later

Site isZen Meditation

Fujifilm XF 23mm f/2 R WR

06/28/2005 02:54:22 PM · #2

anyone

aznym

Fujifilm X-T3

06/28/2005 02:57:24 PM · #3

Well, all can say is that if the website doesn't allow you to save anything, you shouldn't be thinking about saving it.
There are software that can save flash files, but I don't think it's legal at all.
Why not write to them? Ask them if they could provide it off-line.

Message edited by author 2005-06-28 14:57:35.

Dr.Confuser

Nikon D800

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

06/28/2005 02:58:41 PM · #4

The Flash animation has been protected from copying. No legal or technically easy way to rip it from the web site that I know of.

fulgent

Canon EOS-20D

06/28/2005 03:07:58 PM · #5

Bookmark that page and let them give you free file storage.

Message edited by author 2005-06-28 15:11:22.

Fujifilm XF 23mm f/2 R WR

06/28/2005 03:10:04 PM · #6

Thanks for the advice, even i think i would write an email to them

riot

Canon EOS-1D Mark IV

Helios 40-1 85mm f/1.5

06/28/2005 05:35:54 PM · #7

What's all this talk about "legal"? Thar be no laws on the high seas... er, i mean the internet. What you can do, you may do. You can breach copyrights of course, and then have civil action taken against you. You cannot "break the law" on the internet, generally speaking, if only because of its international nature.

You are breaching no copyright by simply downloading a file.

To play a flash animation, you have already downloaded it. There is no legal or moral reason not to save it and use it for what you will, as long as you don't distribute it against its creator's wishes (which may breach copyright etc).

aznym

Fujifilm X-T3

06/28/2005 06:30:15 PM · #8

Originally posted by riot:

There's a difference between files that are streamed and files that are saved on your hard disk before you can play/see it.

Message edited by author 2005-06-28 18:31:52.

PaulMdx

Canon EOS-1D

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L USM

06/28/2005 06:37:20 PM · #9

In IE if I click on the system menu (button very top-right for that window) I get an option 'Make Available Offline', which may do what you want.

riot

Canon EOS-1D Mark IV

Helios 40-1 85mm f/1.5

06/28/2005 06:51:01 PM · #10

Originally posted by xion:

Originally posted by riot:
What's all this talk about "legal"? Thar be no laws on the high seas... er, i mean the internet. What you can do, you may do. You can breach copyrights of course, and then have civil action taken against you. You cannot "break the law" on the internet, generally speaking, if only because of its international nature.

You are breaching no copyright by simply downloading a file.

To play a flash animation, you have already downloaded it. There is no legal or moral reason not to save it and use it for what you will, as long as you don't distribute it against its creator's wishes (which may breach copyright etc).

There's a difference between files that are streamed and files that are saved on your hard disk before you can play/see it.

Not overly. If it reaches your computer anyway, it's your business alone what you do with it then. If you have a program that can save the content as it streams, so be it.

PaulMdx

Canon EOS-1D

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L USM

06/28/2005 07:01:36 PM · #11

Originally posted by riot:

Not overly. If it reaches your computer anyway, it's your business alone what you do with it then. If you have a program that can save the content as it streams, so be it.

From what I remember from an article I read a while ago about a European ISP caching mp3s/etc on a P2P network, I believe the law considers cached data differently to stored. This gives you the right to duplicate copyrighted material temporarily. In the case of downloading a flash anim for later use it could be argued you're storing it, not caching it. The law also sets a reasonable time for that information to be cached before it has to be deleted.

riot

Canon EOS-1D Mark IV

Helios 40-1 85mm f/1.5

06/28/2005 07:25:26 PM · #12

Originally posted by PaulMdx:

Originally posted by riot:
Not overly. If it reaches your computer anyway, it's your business alone what you do with it then. If you have a program that can save the content as it streams, so be it.

From what I remember from an article I read a while ago about a European ISP caching mp3s/etc on a P2P network, I believe the law considers cached data differently to stored. This gives you the right to duplicate copyrighted material temporarily. In the case of downloading a flash anim for later use it could be argued you're storing it, not caching it. The law also sets a reasonable time for that information to be cached before it has to be deleted.

Which law is this? What country's law? And either way, if you are storing without intent (or means?) to redistribute, it goes right to the deep end of the gray area.

All i'm saying is, since it's for personal use, i wouldn't worry too much about it either way and just download it if you can.