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06/25/2005 11:54:57 AM · #1 |
The issue I have is when I download images from DPC and open them on my local machine. I'm wondering if anyone else has this problem and if there is something happening that I am not aware of. Let me explain...
Occasionally, when voting for DPC challenges, I download an image to test it to see if the suggestions I want to make are valid and will work on the actual photograph I am reviewing. I don't want to tell people things that are wrong in a comment.
Something new seems to be happening that I never remember experinecing before. When I open the downloaded image in PS on my local machine the contrast and color are more vibrant than they appear on the DPC web site display without me doing anything. That never happened before. If I immediately save the image as sRGB and upload back to DPC the web site display is 'fixed' and better.
I post process all my own images as .tiff files using the Adobe RGB(1998) color space for printing on my Epson printer. When saving them for DPC I convert them to sRGB and .jpg to meet DPC requirements. When I upload and view them on DPC they always look just fine. I don't have the problem with my own images.
Have other DPCers noticed this change or am I just out to lunch? Have I made some sort of PS setting change that could possibly explain this phenomena? Is there something happening here that I am unaware of? Like the Enquirer motto says, "Curious minds want to know"
It seems curiously related to the sRGB/Adobe RGB(1998) color space problem only in reverse. The wierd part is all my own image processing and uploads to DPC are just fine.
I don't get it. Anyone have an explanation?
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06/25/2005 12:26:40 PM · #2 |
Could be you've got "proof colors" checked for a color space other than sRGB. Instead of copy/pasting to PS, right click and "save target as", then open the local copy in your browser. The colors should be right. Now open it in the editor. If they are wrong, it is a color space issue, my guess is the one referenced above.
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06/26/2005 12:23:03 PM · #3 |
Fritz... If I open a local copy of the image in the browser it looks like it does on DPC so it does have something to do with opening it in PS just as you suggested it might.
You are right. It is a local PS issue related to "proof colors". My normal settings are this. "Proof colors" unchecked and "proof setup" set to "custom". I'm setup this way for printing on my Epson Stylus Pro 4000 printer and have been for a long time. Under "custom" the selected driver is "Plug and Play Monitor 11-08-04". I don't know how that is related or if it has been changed recently. I don't think it has.
I can 'correct' the display several ways, including what you suggested, but am unsure which is the 'right' way to do it. Another method is simply by changing the "custom" selection under "proof setup" to "Monitor RGB" and "proof colors" automatically gets checked. That is different from your suggestion but 'works'. There are other choices to that seem to work.
My biggest concern is that I want to match the local display on my monitor to what gets printed by the printer AND what gets displayed on the web. I periodically adjust my monitor display with a hardware Spyder specifically for that purpose. I must have "what you see is what you get".
Ironically, the 'wrong' local display in PS has richer color and better contrast than the 'correct' web display and when I process my own images they retain the richer colors after being uploaded and displayed 'correct' on the web. I like that part.
So I am unsure if I want to change anything at all. Why do these things always have to be unneccesarily complex? You'd think it should be easy to match local PS, printer and web display, but it is not.
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06/26/2005 02:11:33 PM · #4 |
Nope, it's not easy! If you always have one destination, i.e. the web, you're set. But as soon as you have two destinations, you need to change the proofing settings to see how the colors will display on the target device.
How you work 'round this is mainly a matter of personal choice. My choice would be to dsplay correctly for the web, by default, and switch proofing settings when prepping for print, since I do that less often.
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06/26/2005 03:23:39 PM · #5 |
Thanks, Fritz... your insights and advice are always good. You da' Man!
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