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10/05/2002 10:57:28 AM · #1 |
Ok, there are people who comment and leave their name which kind of defeats the purpose of being anonymous during the week.
My suggestion is that at times I get comments I really want to reply back with but at times I forget. So, why not make it that people who sign can check a box and not be anonymous anymore?
Then, link their names in the comments to a PM box or something. I already know that Swash = Swashbuckler (not to single out but as an example). So, for me to PM him I would have to go find his profile somehow and then click the PM box. Could be easier if it was already linked since he chooses to be known throughout the week.
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10/05/2002 11:41:41 AM · #2 |
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10/05/2002 11:51:56 AM · #3 |
Couldn't there just be a generic "Reply to comment" ability enabled, therefor both the commenter and photographer could maintain their anonymity. The system could log who it was that made a particular comment, but the photographer would never see this, and if they choose to reply to a comment it would be automatically PMed to the person who commented, but without any personal information about the photographer, only a link to the photo it concerns, the persons original comment, and the photographer's reply.
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10/05/2002 12:05:16 PM · #4 |
Why should commenters want to remain anonymous during the week? Especially when they know that, come Sunday night, their identities are revealed anyway.
I always leave my name on comments. I always own to my own words and so signing the comments seems only right. More importantly, it gives the photog an opportunity to contact me if I have made a wrong assumption about their work. This in turn allows me to adjust my vote.
Others will, of course, differ in their opinion on this.
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10/05/2002 12:15:24 PM · #5 |
I believe the original intent behind the anonymity during voting was to prevent a lot of back-and-forth "explaining," arguing, and arm-twisting with the idea of getting folks to change their votes. And if we're going to let the photographer respond during the vote with "further explanation," why not display those comments in the first place (from the photo-submit page)?
* This message has been edited by the author on 10/5/2002 12:13:56 PM. |
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10/05/2002 12:44:59 PM · #6 |
I "own up" to my comments. I do not hide from my own words.. I just feel that anonymity in both directions helps people be more forthcoming with their reactions to a photo.
If the photog is revealed, a commenter/voter may feel swayed by reputation.
If the photog can communicate to the voter/commenter to "explain" something, then the photog has not sufficiently voiced him/herself thru the image.
This has all been discussed before. It is just different from other sites, but isn't 'different' okay? Does everything in the world need to be the same? How boring...
Why would you adjust your votes?
I believe this started as a learning site. It was intended for people to rate a photo and post comments on it based on face value.
What has the photog learned if the image is explained and then boosted up, for instance, in votes? By this the photog has learned it is okay to shoot any old way or any old something, because the explanation will be rewarded.
I get many many comments on how I could have done something better, and the suggestions to make it so. Do I say to the person... "well, it was grainy because I was at the fair at night and my camera is unable to take quality photos at those light levels. Yes, I could have used a light to light her face first, focus and then turn off the light and shoot, but then it wouldn't be spur of the moment fun. So, knowing that, do you think you could push my vote up as you can see the situation didn't allow for all of that?"
Express thru an image. Isn't this what photography is about? Otherwise, go out and write a dissertation on the effects of images and the reasons behind it.
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10/05/2002 01:00:03 PM · #7 |
Karen, you totally missed my point...
The goal is not to make EVERYONE public, just people who choose to do so already.
There's nothing stopping me from sending a note to Autool as he signs all of his comments. It might not even be challenge related but something I would like to share with the person who left the comments before he or I forget about the photo. And, if one leaves comments differently simply because the identity of the photographer is revealed..then that person is not being honest to himself. I leave good/bad comments to everyone whether I know them or not.
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10/05/2002 01:39:35 PM · #8 |
I am with Karen on this one. If you really want to reply on a signed comment then it isn't all that much work to find their profile, is it?
The submissions are anonymous in order to avoid voters being swayed by a photographer's reputation. Nothing says, however, that commentors need to be anonymous. I sign my comments as well. However, I prefer not getting PMs in response to my comments unless I specifically suggested it in cases where I don't see how the picture meets the challenge. I don't like the back and forth of PMs nor do I really care to know the identity of the submitter until Sunday night.
I would rather not seeing details accompanying submissions. Such details could easily lead to a catch 22. For instance, take Magnetic's thread on non-literal garbage. Let's assume he submits a picture of Euro Trash. Just to be sure that everybody "gets it", should he describe in the details that the people pictured are really Eurotrashers? If he does, it sort of defeats the creativity/humor of the image (it is like carefully explaining the punch line of a joke). If he doesn't and some people indeed won't get it, they may send him comments like "well, what the heck is THIS. It supposedly is very obvious to you since you don't even bother with a description. But I just don't see what this is so therefore I mark you down even more for your arrogant assumption that this meets the challenge. You're just lazy, dude. 1" |
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10/05/2002 02:49:47 PM · #9 |
I am sure I didn't miss any point, yours, jakkings, or anyones.
Express yourself thru an image is the main theme to my response.
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10/05/2002 03:44:19 PM · #10 |
I wouldn't mind an automated version of signing in as a commentor.
I sign my comments. If people want to contact me..o.k. by me. Most don't though which leads me to believe that the fact they can see who I am, what kind of photos I like to take and have chosen as my favorites goes a long way in explaining why I voted the way I did.
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