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06/21/2005 04:53:58 PM · #1 |
Do those of you who do weddings go through and edit ALL of the images?? (I mean other than maybe a little levels, USM.) Do you do ALL of them in both color and black & white; do you do a lot of special stuff like vignetting, special text, collages, etc., or do you wait until they decide what they want, then make those decisions?
So...how do YOU do it??
Thanks,
Linda
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06/21/2005 05:06:18 PM · #2 |
I haven't photographed any weddings but being Just Married, I'd say ask your client. Show them proofs, once they pick the poses, sizes, etc.. they like, then edit. Some poeple will ask for special effects, if you don't want it to get out of control offer a few choices at the time of going over the proofs.
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06/21/2005 05:09:40 PM · #3 |
In this particular case, the client wants to see ALL the photos (over 1000), in both color and black & white, and also some special effects so she can "decide".
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06/21/2005 05:12:40 PM · #4 |
I edit every decent shot..even if it's just cloning out dark eye circles or a big zit. I turn about 75% into black and white, tho. BUT I do that much editing because when a client of mine buy's their negs they get all the good shots from the day.
If someone wants special editing than that should be discussed prior. It's apart of your style and who you are as a photographer, if they want different editing they should've booked someone else. That's how I feel.
The cost of editing is a huge portion of my package pricing (I spend up to two full weeks post-processing) and if a client wants more specific editing then it'll take more time and hence - more money!
P.S. Collages are above and beyond normal editing and photographers who offer those charge quite a bit for them from what I've seen.
Message edited by author 2005-06-21 17:14:15. |
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06/21/2005 05:14:01 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by mystical_princess: I haven't photographed any weddings but being Just Married, I'd say ask your client. Show them proofs, once they pick the poses, sizes, etc.. they like, then edit. Some poeple will ask for special effects, if you don't want it to get out of control offer a few choices at the time of going over the proofs. |
I agree, same boat. Having some images with a special effect is good though, so you might want to spend some time on a couple of proofs. This will give the couple a chance to see what can be done, also it isn't 'just the same thing over again'.
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06/21/2005 05:23:44 PM · #6 |
Thanks for the replies.
@Lori: Thanks! You answered some of the specific things that I had questions about. I naturally edit all of the good images as part of my regular workflow, and turn a fair amount into black and white. The problem here is - they "booked" me because I am a long-time family friend. It's really become a problem of..."Well, can you just do this? And, oh yeah, can you just do this, TOO?" and so on, and so on..
I guess I'm really just trying to decide what's "fair" for both of us, and wondered how everyone else did it.
Skiprow gave me some excellent advice on handling wedding packages, but unfortunately it was too late to put it into effect for this one.
Thanks again!
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06/21/2005 05:25:50 PM · #7 |
I tell the client that while I may take 1000+ photos during the day, that they only will get between 200 - 250 'proofs'. These proofs are full workups of how I see that they should best be edited. I haven't had a request for the rest of the images, as I outline in my contract with them, that this is the way it is :-)
-danny |
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06/21/2005 05:32:24 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by lhall: Thanks for the replies.
@Lori: Thanks! You answered some of the specific things that I had questions about. I naturally edit all of the good images as part of my regular workflow, and turn a fair amount into black and white. The problem here is - they "booked" me because I am a long-time family friend. It's really become a problem of..."Well, can you just do this? And, oh yeah, can you just do this, TOO?" and so on, and so on..
I guess I'm really just trying to decide what's "fair" for both of us, and wondered how everyone else did it.
Skiprow gave me some excellent advice on handling wedding packages, but unfortunately it was too late to put it into effect for this one.
Thanks again! |
Just remind your good time family friend that your time is worth something and let them know about how long it will take. Also if you want to say "My standards is doing x amount of work, I certainly can do more but it will take an addiation y amound of hours. How much $$$ do you think is fair for that much more time?" |
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06/21/2005 05:45:47 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by crabappl3: I tell the client that while I may take 1000+ photos during the day, that they only will get between 200 - 250 'proofs'. These proofs are full workups of how I see that they should best be edited. I haven't had a request for the rest of the images, as I outline in my contract with them, that this is the way it is :-)
-danny |
Yea exactly. Same here. As soon as people hear "digital" they think "oooo I'm gonna get a lot more pictures than I paid for" and I tell them that ain't how it works sister!
Message edited by author 2005-06-21 17:46:08. |
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06/22/2005 02:22:32 AM · #10 |
I took approx . 200 photos of my friend's son recently and I went through and picked out about 60 that I thought were really the best, then she came over and I decided to let her see all of them, In the end, she picked out almost everyone that I picked and a couple that I didn't think were my best quality. So, I think you should be the judge of what pictures you think are the best(and not too similar) and let your client choose from those. Remember that your reputation as a wedding photographer is going on display when you give out these photos, so you want your best work out there to be seen. Don't worry that they don't get every shot, they will have more than they know what to do with anyway. |
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06/22/2005 02:25:03 AM · #11 |
The best ones get no special effects, and the crappy ones may be saved by post-processing in some special effects. |
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06/22/2005 02:43:32 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by faidoi: The best ones get no special effects, and the crappy ones may be saved by post-processing in some special effects. |
I agree with this , even though I am a novice, that's what I was attempting to do, save the crappy ones, if they had potential.But my friend was in a hurry for them,and she wasn't being charged for these so I didn't have to do alot of retouching to make a bigger sale, so the crappy ones got left behind and she was fine with that. |
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06/22/2005 02:44:59 AM · #13 |
I may shoot between 1000 and 1500 but the bride will only see 250 shots (give or take if I apply some special effects). I'm with Lori & Danny. If they want my prices and someone else's service they should have thought better before signing the contract. I like to work with my clients but the contract is very specific. They get proofs of the images I feel are the best of from the day and then they can select their prints from that set for their album. As it is I bet both Lori & Danny have more artistic edits and more time invested in each wedding since they've both been shooting weddings longer than have I.
Its not mean to be up front with the clients via your contract and then stick to it.
Kev
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