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06/20/2005 08:52:40 AM · #1 |
is it posable to have four challenges a week in place of just two. I have noticed that there are many people getting upset with the challenges lately and I was thinking if you had two open and two members a week you could make more people happy, thus making the forum post worth visiting again.
Mabey I'm just a kid with big ideas that aren't very good.
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06/20/2005 08:57:33 AM · #2 |
I suggested a while back that we should have four challenges as follows:
1 "no editing" - at all! zip, nada!
2 "basic editing" - the usual suspects
3 "advanced editing" - ditto
4 "anything goes" - use of more filters (ie the famous liquify tool, etc) this would give us PS junkies a fun challenge
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06/20/2005 09:34:53 AM · #3 |
| we are in need of another 48 hour challenge |
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06/20/2005 09:43:35 AM · #4 |
| People would just shift to whining about how many pictures there are to vote on. You soon learn that people are never happy. |
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06/20/2005 05:44:32 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by moodville:
People would just shift to whining about how many pictures there are to vote on. You soon learn that people are never happy. |
Is that why you live in moodville? ; ) |
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06/20/2005 05:49:45 PM · #6 |
| No new challenges please until I get my new camera in 4 to 7 days!! :D |
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06/28/2005 04:13:12 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by fotoshootme:
1 "no editing" - at all! zip, nada!
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This would put DSLR shooters at a disadvantage, as well as users of cheaper cameras with fewer features. Some P&S cams allow you to crop and adjust levels in-camera, which would hardly be fair. Not to mention the problems of having to upload a 640 pixel wide 150k image :)
Originally posted by fotoshootme:
4 "anything goes" - use of more filters (ie the famous liquify tool, etc) this would give us PS junkies a fun challenge |
Then it just becomes a photoshop competition rather than a photography competition... there are a lot of websites for those.
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06/28/2005 04:28:23 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by riot:
Originally posted by fotoshootme:
1 "no editing" - at all! zip, nada!
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This would put DSLR shooters at a disadvantage, |
i don't mean to be rude (i do plea ignorance though - since i have never used a dslr) but why would dslrs be at a disadvantage?
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06/28/2005 04:40:13 PM · #9 |
| It should be a wonderful idea! :D |
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06/28/2005 04:52:24 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by mesmeraj:
Originally posted by riot:
Originally posted by fotoshootme:
1 "no editing" - at all! zip, nada!
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This would put DSLR shooters at a disadvantage, |
i don't mean to be rude (i do plea ignorance though - since i have never used a dslr) but why would dslrs be at a disadvantage? |
dSLR cameras typically produce "less processed" work on the assumption that the shooter will do the sharpening, levels, etc in post ptoduction where it can better be controlled. P&S cameras are designed to produce acceptable results directly from camera to printer.
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06/28/2005 05:23:52 PM · #11 |
Robert,
while you are correct, I also want to add that you can 'program' most dSLRs to produce effects similar to the ones in P&S. Use of Custom Functions, and changing default parameters also counts as "no editing" and so would any raw converter adjustments count as "no editing" perhaps.
That said, given the amount of work necessary it is still considered a disadvantage IMO.
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06/28/2005 05:30:28 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by bear_music:
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dSLR cameras typically produce "less processed" work on the assumption that the shooter will do the sharpening, levels, etc in post ptoduction where it can better be controlled. P&S cameras are designed to produce acceptable results directly from camera to printer.
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right - RAW mode (so does my mid range camera, prosumer, whatever youre meant to call them), but you don't *have* to shoot in RAW with a DSLR do you? I always thought DSLR came with more options of different modes to shoot in, not less.
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06/28/2005 06:06:31 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by mesmeraj:
Originally posted by bear_music:
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dSLR cameras typically produce "less processed" work on the assumption that the shooter will do the sharpening, levels, etc in post ptoduction where it can better be controlled. P&S cameras are designed to produce acceptable results directly from camera to printer.
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right - RAW mode (so does my mid range camera, prosumer, whatever youre meant to call them), but you don't *have* to shoot in RAW with a DSLR do you? I always thought DSLR came with more options of different modes to shoot in, not less. |
Nothing to do with raw mode. When you take a shot with your P&S, before it saves the file, it'll adjust the contrast, boost the saturation of the colours, and sharpen the image for you so a better-looking file comes out of the camera. Many dslrs can be set to do this, but they are DESIGNED to give the shooter the control - and rely on the images being processed afterwards.
On a site like DPC where we obviously have to at least resize our images, it's taken for granted that we will also crop and probably adjust the levels of our image ourselves... if not sharpen, etc etc. So doing this in-camera is a waste of time, and a possible loss of quality, which is why most DSLR shooters on DPC at least turn down these settings if not off altogether.
Having a straight-from-camera contest would simply eliminate this aspect of a DSLR shooter's workflow, while changing nothing for the snapshooter with a consumer p&s designed to make your friends go *wow* at your holiday snaps with the least technical knowhow or effort from the photographer.
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06/28/2005 06:35:54 PM · #14 |
I dont get all the clamour for a straight out from the camera challenge. I mean thats basically what the basic editing challenges are, granted a few people, including myself, do some crazy things within the rules that purists would whole heartedly condem.
I guess my message for everyone that wants an out of the camera challenge is to embrace technology and not be afraid to use the digital darkroom. If you find yourself not standing a chance in basic editing maybe its a sign that you need to further develop your photographic skills. Pressing the shutter button with the right camera settings is only half the process. Just as with film, you need to go into a darkroom and develop what you have just captured. Nothing is gained by limiting oneself because of ideals or lack of knowledgibility to a certain process which clearly demonstrates no benefits.
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06/28/2005 06:44:36 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by nico_blue:
I dont get all the clamour for a straight out from the camera challenge. I mean thats basically what the basic editing challenges are, granted a few people, including myself, do some crazy things within the rules that purists would whole heartedly condem. |
Nonsense. The so-called purists would condemn anything that changes the essence of the photograph.
Are you honestly telling me that only "a few people" crop their images? How about changing your contrast and brightness, and modifying the saturation of different channels? And how about "crazy" things such as adding a border??
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06/28/2005 08:35:53 PM · #16 |
| I think four challenges is a good idea due to the large increase in volume of entries, I do not agree with changing editing rules, but think if there were 2 open challenges and 2 member challenges and you could only enter 1 open and 1 member, it would cut down on the large amount of entries. |
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06/28/2005 09:41:50 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by stormy:
I think four challenges is a good idea due to the large increase in volume of entries, I do not agree with changing editing rules, but think if there were 2 open challenges and 2 member challenges and you could only enter 1 open and 1 member, it would cut down on the large amount of entries. |
Hey now there's a good idea. That would spread out the content and make voting more interesting, but not make it a rush to keep up with the contests if you can only enter one of each at a time. Don't think anyone's suggested that before? I'm for it either way :)
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