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 06/20/2005 06:20:38 PM · #51
Originally posted by GoldBerry:

I gotta say, not to push the subject/issue, but those are all normal things that shouldn't lead to lots of blurred images (except the slow shutter) when you know what you're doing. I can only speak for myself but I eat very little and drink little on long shoots, half the time I shoot in dark areas, don't have a locking flash focus and still don't get blurry shots. Out of a full day's shoot I might have 2 or 3.


As pointed out earlier, the issues in his posted photos do not appear to be a result of slow shutter speed they appear to be a result of the camera not getting a good focus lock. This, as mavrik has pointed out, it standard operating for the dREBEL and his lack of using a flash much prior to this event, added to the whole situation. I agree with Mav's list of what may have caused this. I will be using a second off camera flash this Friday, so I am borrowing it on Wednesday so I can practice with it prior to the event. I think it's good practice anytime you introduce a new piece of equipment to your camera system, that you get ample time using it before it's money time.

Mav, chalk it up to live and learn. Hopefully you'll get enough work with this setup so that in the future you can minimize the blurred shots to Goldberry's phenominal 3 or 4 count :-)

-danny
 06/20/2005 06:20:50 PM · #52
Originally posted by Nuno:
One thing is that I would probably used the flash in almoust every shoot. The orange light in their faces are not very flattering.


Originally posted by mavrik:

Flash Flash fired [on]


06/20/2005 06:22:36 PM · #53
Originally posted by GoldBerry:

Note to all: if shooting weddings or long events - start working out! :-)


VERY good advice, I shot the Edinburgh marathon last weekend using a 10D + 70-200mm F2.8 IS, approx. 5 hours and 4000 photos with little opportunity to take the camera away from my eye, now that hurts if you are as unfit as I am!
 06/20/2005 06:27:10 PM · #54
Originally posted by crabappl3:
Mav, chalk it up to live and learn. Hopefully you'll get enough work with this setup so that in the future you can minimize the blurred shots to Goldberry's phenominal 3 or 4 count :-)
-danny


I used to get a lot more blurry shots...but that was because of my slow shutter and didn't realize that's what I was doing wrong. The wrong shutter speed for the wrong scenario. That's why I keep bringing it up. But I've been wrong before for sure. lol The first wedding I shot (only a few months ago) with the 70-200 resulted in 75% blurred shots (I was only assisting so my pictures didn't count thankfully) at 1/60-1/90. I lived and learned.
:-)

Message edited by author 2005-06-20 18:27:44.
 06/20/2005 10:14:25 PM · #55
Here are two that came out a bit better from Saturday.





Message edited by author 2005-06-20 22:14:35.
 06/20/2005 10:18:03 PM · #56
Originally posted by mavrik:
Originally posted by SDW65:
With a monopod you still have shake issues, Left to right, forward and back. It just helps up and down with a little balance. And if you say your were flying away you have to take in account accelerated heart beat and breathing that may make you more shaky than when relaxed. And at 1/50 on a 50-75mm zoom that don't give much margin of error.


I think you're right. At least you didn't tell me how stupid I am, like I got pasted pretty good at FredMiranda. lol

Jeremy - I've actually heard that IS on a monopod is a bad thing? I dunno, I'll have to try it when I get my 70-200 IS 2.8 L. :)

M


IS on a tripod is a bad thing, because movement, well there is none. Unless its an extremely windy day, then I leave it on. I always leave the IS on when using my monopod, because I still get a little shake, so the IS is still working and functioning as if you were hand holding, but the monopod gives you a little extra time incase of a long exposure. That night show I took was half a second... IS on and on the monopod, so you tell me if that was a bad thing ;)
 06/20/2005 10:36:08 PM · #57
I tried my best to read through all the responses, but I might've missed something, so forgive me if you have already answered these-

1)Were you selecting the AF point or allowing the camera to choose?
2)Were you shooting in manual or a pre-programmed mode?

Just as everyone else keeps saying, I agree that it's a focus issue.
 06/20/2005 10:38:08 PM · #58
Originally posted by thewriterside:
1)Were you selecting the AF point or allowing the camera to choose?
2)Were you shooting in manual or a pre-programmed mode?


1) I always choose center AF point, focus then recompose. According to photo.net, if flash is on, that doesn't work with the 300D.
2) I was shooting in Av and M most of the night.
 06/20/2005 10:41:52 PM · #59
Originally posted by mavrik:
Do I have Parkinsons? (no offense meant to those who do, my MIL does)

Originally posted by mavrik:

Actually my fiancee shot too (and did purty well, though similar focus issues), plus they had TWO videographers.


Mother in law? Fiancee? You married yet or what?
 06/20/2005 10:43:50 PM · #60
Mother in law to be. I'm getting practice at calling someone my mother in law tho! Not married officially til Sept, it just feels like it!
 06/20/2005 10:49:06 PM · #61
Originally posted by mavrik:
Actually, the Rebel does "focus lock" if you half press the shutter, however,

//www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=009pxy&unified_p=1

That post seems to say that focus lock and recomposition does NOT WORK on the DRebel if you are using flash. Period. Ouchie, I guess I don't use flash enough to know that!

M


Use the flash on Auto mode. canon admits to issues with e-ttl and exposures with wedding dresses anyway - one of the the reasons they came out with e-ttl II.

I'll have to experiment a bit...if flash is in Auto mode, then no TTL, so the camera should focus normally, right?
 06/21/2005 11:33:10 PM · #62
Okay, did a bit of experimenting..

Using P, A and T modes, center AF point, I focues on a white item and held the shutter button 1/2 way, recompsed the shot:
In e-ttl on all the modes the white was overexposed. To get proper exposure, i had to use Flash Exposure Lock and then recompose.

I tried with my Metz in Auto mode, a better way they say...
P mode becoms useless - in ettl it is locked at 1/60 sec and you can adjust the ap. IN Auto mode on the flash, the Ap locks at f22. EVERYTHING comes out underexposed.
A mode locks the shutter at 1/200. This works, but it not my fist choice.

Full manuul on the camera and Auto on the flash works well - I can set T at 1/60 and adjust ap and still get a great pic - if i use the shutter button 1/2 way and recompose the exposure is correct, the focus is correct - just as if you were doing it with no flash as all.

this testing was done with direct flash...no LS2, no bounce, etc. and I know that effects things.

Hey, if it were simple anyone could do it, right?

So, if using e-ttl use flase exposure lock.
if using flash in Auto mode, camera should be in Manual mode.
 06/21/2005 11:57:29 PM · #63
Originally posted by Prof_Fate:

if using flash in Auto mode, camera should be in Manual mode.


greatest bit of advice ever!

is this why you are a professor?
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